Submitted by CrassostreaVirginica t3_11ea3x6 in rva
Remerez t1_jaddm4r wrote
Reply to comment by popsrcr in Richmond Public Schools principals unionize by CrassostreaVirginica
Have some faith. This is in the right direction. Higher pay helps retain teachers and attract more teacher.
Zav72777 t1_jadglid wrote
yeah idk why this guys getting downvoted, that would be HUGE, good teachers do amazing work and set the next generation up for success, but yes, I'd like more change, but, this is still huge and will help a lot of people
Remerez t1_jadl62f wrote
Some people would rather their pessimism come true to feel right and in control. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. The fact they are unionizing means they know what they are doing.
Also, Richmond is a very anti-union area. I can't tell you how many people I have met here believe unions are good for nothing and take your money. I see a union like a bulletproof vest. Even a shitty vest is better than nothing.
popsrcr t1_jadmxto wrote
This doesn't have anything to do with teachers, from what I see. Its back office staff. I do not question one bit that they deserve higher pay, I just think that's all this accomplishes. If teachers get more pay, I'm for that as well.
dphoenix1 t1_jadpd89 wrote
RPS teachers already voted for unionization in 2021, this just adds administrative employees as well.
popsrcr t1_jadpkuf wrote
THat's what I thought.
Remerez t1_jadsynu wrote
I'm not sure why you are so against people getting paid more. It seems like you are getting all ruffled up over a possibility, not whats happening.
popsrcr t1_jadtiwl wrote
Where did I say I was against people getting paid more?
" I do not question one bit that they deserve higher pay, I just think that's all this accomplishes. If teachers get more pay, I'm for that as well. "
Remerez t1_jadv6xm wrote
You are concern trolling and implying that this whole step towards progress is going to be only used for monetary gain. Your whole argument is that these people only want more money, and they will do nothing else. You see them in bad faith based on personal beliefs and not those people's actions.
Having pessimistic viewpoints on future events is a type of delusion. it's best to either be optimistic or say I don't know. Because the more negative beliefs of the future we hold the more it will affect our outlook on the world and our actions.
popsrcr t1_jadw1l1 wrote
Please spare me your armchair psychiatry. I have no reason to wish folks ill. But the fact remains that the only tangible result is more pay for these folks. I mean, how is the cafe lady getting paid more going to affect education? Again, I'm POSITIVE they deserve it, but little johnny still can't add two and two.
Teachers? Hell yeah, they get the brunt of this.
Better benefits and pay are good for all.
Remerez t1_jadwv8y wrote
Oh you're anti-union, I get it now.
You know you can stop being an armchair judge and actually look into the stuff yourself. people who get paid more have higher job satisfaction and higher job satisfaction means they will volunteer their time more and systems will run more smoothly because of less animosity. higher pay means better teachers, and better teachers mean little johnny gets a better education.
Do you get it now?
popsrcr t1_jady5bz wrote
Better teachers has NOTHING to do with this topic lol. IT was about back office. And I'm still good with them getting realistic pay. Everyone should, but its kind of relative.
And yeah, I love my job and am paid well. I volunteer .... wait...sometimes.
I'm not even arguing with you!
and, pretty sure you've prejudged me while having no clue. But its all good, we all do it.
kneel_yung t1_jaepmu3 wrote
> Better teachers has NOTHING to do with this topic lol. IT was about back office.
Better admin == happier teachers. Idk if you've ever had a real job, but sometimes you end up with a bad boss whom you hate and it sucks to go to work and deal with them.
I left my last job for that reason and now I have a job with a cool boss who has my back and doesn't throw me under the bus at every opportunity. So yeah, better admin == better teachers.
popsrcr t1_jaeq8pc wrote
Lol. Ok,
Remerez t1_jae3a47 wrote
It does, though. More pay means better support and more incentive to be a teacher knowing that the staff will more supportive. You really want this to fail don't you?
kneel_yung t1_jaeptnd wrote
I get the impression that this a very young person or perhaps somebody who has been their own boss for a long time. cause anyone who's worked an actual job knows how much of an impact your boss has on your job satisfaction. Anyone who doesn't get that is usually a) a NEET, or b) a problem employee
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