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OPACY_Magic t1_jb65cbh wrote

Reply to comment by meowmeow_now in RVA Chipotle’s are the WORST by CoffeeFiendd

God I hate this train of thought. First, no jobs are paying minimum wage right now and a lot of fast food jobs are paying $13-15/hr. Second, work ethic among Gen Z is just bad across the board, regardless of pay. And giving lower effort regardless of pay builds bad habits for the future.

I’ve been to three different countries in the past year. All paid less than the US for service jobs and yet the service was so much better there. In all honesty, Americans are just lazier and more entitled than people from other countries.

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FromTheIsle t1_jb6a0su wrote

$13-$15 is not a liveable wage. Wanting more is not entitlement. I've, lost chunks of skin, been burned a thousand times, and abused by coworkers and customers alike...all for poverty wages.

Would you work at McDonald's for $13/hr? And you think they should be paid even less?

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OPACY_Magic t1_jb6h422 wrote

Where did I say they should be paid less??? Personally, no, I would not work at McDonald’s for $13/hr. But that’s more or less current rate set by the market. Either one of two things happen with raising wages for unskilled labor. 1)There’s a big push for automation and machines start to replace people 2)The business goes under. This is why it’s extremely important to gain other skills in this market, especially since we have tons and tons of information to learn at our fingertips.

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FromTheIsle t1_jb6hbtg wrote

I mean you praised people for being paid less and doing more work...the implication seems to be that people should be grateful to make $13/hr

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meowmeow_now t1_jb6men7 wrote

tHe MaRkEt works both ways. $13 buys you shitty labor. You wouldn’t do that work for $13 an hour and neither would I. But $100 an hour? I’d jump at that AND be the best damn chipotle employee. Sooo, somewhere between 13 and 100 is an hourly rate that would get you better service in fast food. I don’t know exactly what that number is, but it doesn’t matter because ThE mArKeT has decided that shitty service is good enough.

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FromTheIsle t1_jb9nyrv wrote

You are sitting here complaining about how fast food workers in America are entitled and lazy...but you are literally eating at the lowest quality establishment...I dont get it what do you expect? You are voting with your money for shitty service and then complaining about receiving shitty service. Do people who say "this is the market setting the wage" actually understand their own wisdom? Yes. The market set a wage that is so low, if it went any lower, people wouldn't even show up to do the job...but you think if they are paid that amount (or slightly more than that) everything's good and they should do the job of someone making 5 times as much.

Why isn't the market telling you to spend more money if you aren't satisfied with service? Why does the market only work in one way where you get to set the price but the worker can't negotiate and ask for more? I do this one the time as a contractor. Seems like lots of people under the employ of others forget their labor is an asset that can be leveraged.

More to the point, do you just walk into businesses and judge the fuck out of everyone you think is a millenial? Maybe you aren't getting terrible service as much as you just have unrealistic expectations.

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meowmeow_now t1_jb6kyb9 wrote

Omg - are gen z finally replacing millennials and the society scapegoat? Didn’t realize only high schooler and college age folks work minimum wage jobs.

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