Lost Dog! Union hill area. She’s nervous but friendly and responds to the name Nola. If you see her/find her, try and grab her or call into animal control.bigdaddyman6969 t1_irvmtnk wrote
Reply to comment by BalsamicBinch in Lost Dog! Union hill area. She’s nervous but friendly and responds to the name Nola. If you see her/find her, try and grab her or call into animal control. by Imadouchebro
Grabbing a pitbull you don’t know is terrible advice regardless.
PickanickBasket t1_irvoy1h wrote
Grabbing a dog of any beeed you don't know is risky
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irvq0w0 wrote
But def riskier to grab a pitbull than a golden retriever!
PickanickBasket t1_irvqa5l wrote
Only because pitbulls have stronger jaws. They're not any more likely to bite than a retriever.
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irvqnpk wrote
Lol yeaH right. 2 seconds spent looking up stats would tell you that’s BS. You’re just low class like all pitbull owners.
Diet_Coke t1_irwdy8g wrote
lol this reply shows exactly what you're about, which is racism but with the thin veneer of directing it at pitbulls instead of their "low class" owners. Just like racists you probably have all kinds of flawed statistics to lean on, and just like with racists they're easily dispelled with about 3 minutes of research.
The CDC hasn't collected data on dog breeds wrt dog bites because it's essentially impossible to get accurate information.
TomJoadsLich t1_irwumzc wrote
Are you comparing black people or minorities to dogs
Diet_Coke t1_irwvm98 wrote
No, you'd have to be pretty braindead to get that message from my post. I am saying that breed discrimination is a stand in for racism, and the two share many traits. You can see from the post that I am replying to, the way OC classifies all pitbull owners as "low class" which is not even a dogwhistle, they're saying the quiet part out loud.
TomJoadsLich t1_irx1ms3 wrote
Eh. I agree with you that calling their owners low class is a dog whistle (no pun intended.) But dog breeds are bred to do things; acknowledging that fact is not comparable to racism. It rubs me the wrong way when people act like acknowledging retrievers retrieve, pointers point, shepherds shepherds, and my pitbull terrier will kill a rabbit in a heart beat if he was allowed to - is comparable to racism. It feels like you’re equating racism - which is completely unfounded - to acknowledging that genetics in dogs have an impact on behavior
Just to be clear - I own a pitbull and have owned a wheaten terrier
Seriously, I don’t see how equating the two is not actually more racist - you’re saying that black peoples and ethnic minorities are facing discrimination like dogs
Diet_Coke t1_irx2w2u wrote
Sorry but you're missing the point. Yes, dogs have been bred to serve different purposes and that this impacts the dogs themselves as far as their personality and abilities. However, discrimination against specific breeds is a stand-in for discrimination against the people who own them. Again, I would just point right back to that dog whistle.
However, there is a point that can be made here on genetics which is that even for a professional, visually identifying a dog's breed can be very difficult. My dog is half corgi and half mini poodle but regularly is misidentified a cairn terrier. If she were to bite someone and it was reported, it's pretty reasonable to expect that there'd be a report about a cairn terrier biting someone - even though she's not one.
There are also indications that a dog's breed only accounts for a very small amount of its behavior (source): "In particular, the researchers found that aggressiveness — how easily a dog is provoked by things that are frightening or uncomfortable — is almost completely uninformed by breed."
It is easy to draw similarities between discrimination against breeds of dog that is built on a foundation of bias and ignorance, and discrimination against people that is built on a foundation of bias and ignorance.
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irwg8aa wrote
Sadly the statistics are there and very clear. Especially for fatalities. Calling everything you don’t like racist seems like an exhausting way to go through life. Hope things get better for you.
Diet_Coke t1_irwjrru wrote
>Sadly the statistics are there and very clear.
Doesn't seem to square with:
>The CDC hasn't collected data on dog breeds wrt dog bites because it's essentially impossible to get accurate information.
(source)
>The CDC strongly recommends against breed-specific laws in its oft-cited study of fatal dog attacks, noting that data collection related to bites by breed is fraught with potential sources of error (Sacks et al., 2000). Specifically, the authors of this and other studies cite the inherent difficulties in breed identification (especially among mixed-breed dogs) and in calculating a breed’s bite rate given the lack of consistent data on breed population and the actual number of bites occurring in a community, especially when the injury is not deemed serious enough to require treatment in an emergency room (Sacks et al., 2000; AVMA, 2001; Collier, 2006). Supporting the concern regarding identification, a recent study noted a significant discrepancy between visual determination of breed and DNA determination of breed (Voith et al., 2009).
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>Hope things get better for you.
Don't project your miserable existence onto me.
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irwmbww wrote
Diet_Coke t1_irwn297 wrote
>That’s hard to say, because according to a new study, “unknown” tops the list.
Shut the fuck up.
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Diet_Coke t1_irwnmbb wrote
You're the mad one, and stupid to boot. Wow, what a surprise - too traits that correlate strongly with racism.
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irwo0aj wrote
Diet_Coke t1_irwsvvi wrote
pmyourcoffeemug t1_irvr2xa wrote
Lol @ bigdaddyman6969 calling people low class. My pit mix is the cutest dog in the world, has been bit by other dogs before and has never bit back. Shitty dog owners are shitty.
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irvra3o wrote
“Oh but my pitbull!!!” I’m sure the family who just had there kid mauled to death thought their dog was great too. Only scum bags own pit bulls.
PickanickBasket t1_irvs4se wrote
Well, you're clearly not interested in talking civilly or doing actual research, but anyways- for anyone else reading along:
As someone who has worked in animal care and welfare for 20 years....
Pitbulls, rottweilers and German shepherds have some of the strongest jaws of all breeds. When they do bite, they do SERIOUS DAMAGE. Those bites are almost always reported and recorded, which is why the stats skew that way.
When the family golden, doodle, poodle, hound, Chihuahua, etc bite, it's usually much less severe, and is therefore often not reported at all. It's really hard to get a proper data set because there are lots of unreported bites out there (we often learn about them at our practice after the fact).
Additionally, pitbulls are one of the most abused breeds in the U.S.A. which means that a pitbull with a bad owner or history of abuse is more likely to lash out.
Anyways, I am happy to provide sources if anyone wants. Otherwise, I'm not super stoked about continuing this "debate" with an abusive and close-minded person. Hope y'all are having a great day, and give your furry babies a smooch from me!
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irvss6u wrote
Justify it however you want the stats are clear. Pitbulls kill WAY more than proportional amount of people. Only a shitty person would WANT to own a dog like that.
mynameisnotmorgan t1_irvxosj wrote
Boooooooooooooooooo. I love how you think that personality correlates with dog breed. My parents are the loveliest people I know & they own a pit (who is also the goodest of boys). It seems like you have a bone to pick & we aren’t getting the full story. Nonetheless, this was a post for a lost dog & it’s been found, huzzah! Go do something productive & worthwhile with your Tuesday, dude.
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irwgi3d wrote
Why would anyone want to own the most aggressive and dangerous dog breed unless they are a douchebag? Im glad your parents dog hasn’t attacked anyone yet.
Greencare_gardens t1_irxtaa6 wrote
People also love to blame shit on their pitbulls... My next door neighbor for example who "got bit" by her pitbull... The crazy old hag stabbed the poor dog 24 times with kitchen shears "because it bit her". After we called animal control and sat with the poor pup until they showed up (it was incredibly docile btw for any dog that just got stabbed 20+ times) her "bite marks" were non-existent... She was just mad the dog got out of her broke ass fence for the second time that day but since her Dad was an ex-chief of police in the area nothing happened to her.
pmyourcoffeemug t1_irvrimu wrote
I don’t have kids and I guess your referencing some story that is in the news right now? Like I said, shitty dog owners are shitty.
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irvrsof wrote
It’s a shitty breed. 70% of deaths from dogs are pitbulls.
pmyourcoffeemug t1_irvrwz0 wrote
69.69% of statistics are made up. You’re a shitty breed.
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irvsvsw wrote
When your dog bites someone think of me :)
pmyourcoffeemug t1_irvuerk wrote
I just bit her and got a confused look.
Greencare_gardens t1_irxs59j wrote
Lol it must be nice to be mentally incapacitated - going through life unaware of how stupid you are. Smfh
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