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Soloemilia t1_ixf14dv wrote
I always get paranoid I’m invisible on a daily basis going through that intersection.
BurkeyTurger t1_ixeobvt wrote
Can they at least go ahead and rip it out so that they can start fixing the intersection, and just keep it in storage till the courts decide where it finally ends up?
fusion260 OP t1_ixepyo1 wrote
Seriously, I’m really surprised that the city didn’t jump on removing it the second the last court case was settled.
Where’s the runaway dump truck hero we need?
Captain_Tiberius t1_ixfbf0v wrote
After the last court case ruling in October, the indirect relatives had a window of time to appeal before the city could legally follow through with the ruling. The indirect relatives appealed, so here we are.
AlreadyShrugging t1_ixh4dvc wrote
Id love it if a runaway cement truck just hit that thing head-on at speed.
TheCheeseDevil t1_ixesc37 wrote
It is WILD to me that this group that claims to be distantly related, but not descended, from Hill are petitioning to have his remains STAY in that dumbass roundabout. If I was even slightly related and cared I'd want them moved to the cemetery already agreed on
fusion260 OP t1_ixeta7a wrote
I think it has more to do with the fact that they specifically don’t want it going to the Black History Museum and Cultural Center of Virginia.
Instead, they want the remains to go elsewhere and to have Richmond pay for the transportation costs to their desired destination.
TheCheeseDevil t1_ixf1f4n wrote
That makes a lot of sense, you're right! The whole situation is a little bizarre to me.
Charlesinrichmond t1_ixfpz2v wrote
I'm not per se on their side but why not just say hey, okay you can have the body and the statue to get it out of here. It would be cheaper than the rest of the court cases it seems like a silly thing to fight over
fusion260 OP t1_ixfrhbr wrote
Because they apparently want the body and the monument moved to a venue of their choosing for free. Even if the city agreed, it’s all-but-guaranteed that both would get sued by some other party that doesn’t believe the public should be paying for the third relocation of someone’s remains after the city paid to maintain it for all these years.
That’s what’s so insidious about our legal system… seemingly unlimited rounds of lawsuits between unlimited parties can delay things indefinitely until someone decides they’re just going to do it whether it’s legal or not.
gamerthrowaway_ t1_ixhzl92 wrote
> Because they apparently want the body and the monument moved to a venue of their choosing for free.
So it's sort of interesting to me, graves have been moved in the past. One of the largest being when San Francisco passed a "no burials inside City limits" ordinances and then evicted most of their existing cemeteries to south of town in Colma to free up City land for building stuff on. IIRC, the University of San Francisco sits on top of a portion of that land now.
They said they would disinter them, transport them, and rebury them, but you had to cough up $10 (a few hundred in today's dollars). If you didn't pay, the mass grave'd that. The remains didn't get to stick around.
It's also why there are only like 2 or 3 cemeteries now; a tiny one at an old church, and the one at the fort (which is federal land). When I first heard that, I wondered what it would take for RVA to go that route and move Calvary and Hollywood.
Charlesinrichmond t1_ixfyn5o wrote
easy enough to indemnify out of it though, and I really doubt anyone would care once the descendants have it and the city is rid of it
CptJaxxParrow t1_ixfmy0d wrote
These "distant relatives" have never had to drive through this intersection, have they? Who cares about the confederate monument? it could be a monument to bagel the beagle and id still be saying it has to go
twelvesteprevenge t1_ixfy2sm wrote
Get fucked, distant Hills
Professional_Book912 t1_ixf56cs wrote
The minute the interned him it was no longer a monument but a mausoleum. So different rules apply, also why it took so long to get him moved. They want to make sure they are doing it legally.
My guess is the water intrusion has made soup. Good luck syphoning him out Richmond. If we wait long enough he might be frozen. Civil War Pop.
Pduke t1_ixfx8as wrote
I've lived by this intersection for over a decade. There is at least one accident here a week.
CosmicHippo924 t1_ixfdxhf wrote
That whole intersection needs a complete overhaul.
polloretardo t1_ixghdio wrote
Donate the statue as planned and leave his body in an unmarked grave beneath a new intersection, fuck him.
BabyBat07 t1_ixg4b1b wrote
His remains are in the middle of an intersection of a major road, idk but if I were the family I’d maybe want it to be somewhere nicer than in the middle of the goddamn road.
Fuck that statue and fuck his family, tear it down make it safer to go through there.
allmimsyburogrove t1_ixfp8o0 wrote
let's get past this Lost Cause embarrassment once and for all. Trophies for second place is all they are.
thesoundandthefruity t1_ixix3to wrote
We need a hero to just bite the bullet and run it over with a semi. That intersection is a danger to humanity. In this scenario, the monument is irrelevant.
It’s fucking unsafe.
toller_kate t1_ixf03zr wrote
I wish those 'distant relatives' had to drive thru that death trap daily like the rest of us do...it's absurd the city hasn't fixed this by now.