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bruxalle t1_iycih4s wrote

I’m so tired of this happening. When is America going to wake up and outlaw Walmarts.

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Worsebetter t1_iycsx2c wrote

You could be right. In every other country with zero mass shootings they have two things in common, Sensible gun laws and zero wall marts. you vote for getting rid of wall marts. cool dude.

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bruxalle t1_iyd0d0f wrote

‘‘Twas a joke about Walmart being awful.

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Alex_Caton94 t1_iyb8o7y wrote

My stepfather saw the shooting happen. A young male got shot twice in the chest and bled out in the parking lot. The shooter hopped into a car with a few other people and sped away.

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MisterFrog t1_iydrplf wrote

So was it premeditated or just terrorism? It's shitty either way, but if its random acts of violence to cause terror, that's worse.

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fusion260 t1_iyb8fwp wrote

Pedantic trivia: Walmart officially dropped the hyphen and extra capital letter in 2008—14 years ago.

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andrewsucks t1_iyb7are wrote

Lots of deals go down in that parking lot. Sad what people are pushed to.

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chasetwisters t1_iyb8l7c wrote

Yeah based on the pictures this was in a semi-secluded corner, not the store itself.

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wagonboss t1_iybpu91 wrote

Yeah, lot along Quioccasin goes around the ‘left’ side of the store. If you’re facing it from Parham that is.

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BillyWilly2019 t1_iydn2a2 wrote

It was in the lot "below" the T-Mobile and Truist that front on Parham.

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xDocFearx t1_iycc8ty wrote

What are people “pushed to?”

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andrewsucks t1_iycndxk wrote

Selling drugs to make ends meet, meeting strangers in Walmart parking lots to get a fix.

Just say what you mean instead of asking leading questions.

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8bitmullet t1_iycpwsi wrote

Or maybe they actually want to know the answer and you're trying to play mind reader.

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Danger-Moose t1_iycr09n wrote

Judging by the follow up question, it would appear op was correct in their assumption.

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8bitmullet t1_iycre08 wrote

But they hadn't read that yet, so there was insufficient evidence at the time.

Are we just going to adopt and enable a cynical, guilty until proven innocent attitude here?

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andrewsucks t1_iycrp1k wrote

The question was clearly disingenuous to me. If it wasn't for you, that's fine.

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8bitmullet t1_iycsm3x wrote

As one who has asked sincere questions before and had others draw the same conclusion as you, I'm here to suggest a higher threshold for determining one's inner motivations.

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andrewsucks t1_iycudm8 wrote

First I looked at the comment, the quotatation marks immediately make me think sarcasm. Next, I took a cursory glance at his profile before I replied. He was active in communities that are filled with assholes and is regularly downvoted for acting like an asshole.

Then I commented.

I am perfectly comfortable with my threshold. I am sorry for what you experienced, but you are making assumptions here.

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8bitmullet t1_iycycrf wrote

So by “the question was clearly disingenuous” you actually mean “I took the time to look through their post history?”

I suggest communicating more clearly in the future, and not expect people to have information they are dependent on you to share.

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andrewsucks t1_iycyqfh wrote

I wasn't talking to you in the first place. It's not my job to make every comment understandable to you. You made this about you.

The question was clearly disingenuous. I just did my due diligence to be sure. Geeze you just want to argue.

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8bitmullet t1_iyd3l3z wrote

It doesn’t matter who you were talking to.

You had the opportunity here to share some crucial context with every reader (that you ALSO did your due diligence and looked in their post history), which totally changes things, but you didn’t.

Why? Did you choose not to? Did you forget? Maybe you were feeling lazy. Maybe you’re making it up now after the fact. I don’t know, but one thing is for certain… that you failed to communicate the evidence you had clearly when given the opportunity.

So, ironically, you’re proving my point for me. Getting sufficient evidence (from you) leads to better decisions (from readers).

If you want to show me how I am wrong, I’m all ears. If you want to take responsibility and admit that you didn’t communicate clearly to everyone reading at first, I would respect you for it. But your last comment makes it look like you want to dodge the points I am making, and degrade the conversation into personal insults.

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Danger-Moose t1_iycrff3 wrote

Seemed to work fine.

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8bitmullet t1_iycs54m wrote

So does a broken clock twice per day. Of course if we assume the worst about someone and their intentions we'll be right some of the time.

The collateral damage, of course, being that the internet gets shittier and more negative in general as a result.

This one interaction does not change the general rule...getting sufficient evidence before drawing conclusions leads to better decisions.

Far too many people take a hint or a shred and call it sufficient evidence. I am suggesting a higher threshold.

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_ponds t1_iybar9j wrote

born in NN, living in RVA past 5 years. just so much shooting that’s getting closer and closer to places I been to. hitting me hard thinking when I could be a bystander and it happen next to me

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StarNerd920 t1_iyd5dxc wrote

The shooting in Chesapeake VA was the Walmart across the street from my sisters house. The idea that she could’ve been there hurts. I’m scared for everyone I love.

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AlphaStrike89 t1_iyf7or2 wrote

Unless your loved ones are doing shady deals in parking lots there is no reason to worry, you're much more likely to die from the flu and I doubt you worry about that.

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AlreadyShrugging OP t1_iydksc6 wrote

I live less than a mile from this Wal-Mart. I feel what you’re saying. I wish I could just go home which is far, far, far away.

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dg792 t1_iyc5rnm wrote

Damn I went to this Walmart at 10, they had that corner of the parking lot cordoned off. Had no idea, terrible to hear this. I live half a mile west of here and it is a very quiet, just immigrant families from every country on the planet grinding hard, everyone working two jobs plus a side hustle. People need to think before putting bullets into the air.

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geekitude t1_iycvy4m wrote

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birdpants t1_iydnc06 wrote

Who made this? It’s genius

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geekitude t1_iydo9o4 wrote

It's an old print from Favianna Rodriguez https://favianna.com/ Probably over a decade ago. I just stumbled across it on a backup.Think I got it from Wes Freed.

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shalomfromus t1_iybhzan wrote

Didn’t even close the store. Peak America. 👍

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linklight2000 t1_iydggl2 wrote

Peak America+ would be immediately announcing a sale on the ammo in sporting goods.

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AlreadyShrugging OP t1_iydl8dq wrote

I agree with your sentiment yet wonder how closing the store quickly in a manner that’s safe and prevents more bystanders from potentially crossing the scene would look like.

Security procedures definitely need to be examined and whether they were followed needs to be investigated.

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BurkeyTurger t1_iyb8qqc wrote

Are you saying another Walmart shooting in general or at that specific one? The last parking lot shooting was at the Chattanooga Plaza one.

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anonyngineer t1_iyd258z wrote

Even before the recent shootings, going to a Walmart put my city-raised nerves on edge.

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BillyWilly2019 t1_iydndt9 wrote

I was at the Chick-Fil-A across Parham at about 8PM. The workers "heard it." I did not know what "it" was at the time. One of the order takers said her brother was over there at the time.

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dreadpiraterobertzzz t1_iydft6e wrote

The sad thing is that there is a solution to this problem. Implemented successfully by every other developed country on the planet. But we can't do that here in 'Merica. People prefer living in a warzone to having common sense.

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ImmobilizedbyCheese t1_iydgvbv wrote

It's written into our constitution and so many people say they're responsible so why should they be punished. I don't know how we can ever change now that it's built into the american identity.

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Diet_Coke t1_iydu040 wrote

>It's written into our constitution

To an extent it is, but the 2A reads:

>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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Now, some people will say that anyone over 18 is part of the militia so it's all honky dory, but I think that's really overlooking the 'well regulated' part. What could a well regulated militia look like?

It would need uniforms, a leadership structure, bylaws, regular training, some kind of funding, a muster point, etc. A well-regulated militia might refuse membership to someone convicted of domestic violence, or using hate speech, or who has signs of being a mass shooter. A well-regulated militia might store firearms and ammunition in a safe area so that they're available for training or when a foreign army invades.

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AlreadyShrugging OP t1_iydliyq wrote

> I don't know how we can ever change now that it's built into the american identity.

We can’t. We won’t. Please do not construe this comment as supportive of guns or even 2nd Amendment. I’m a realist who’s tired of guns.

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dreadpiraterobertzzz t1_iydikru wrote

I agree with what you are saying, it seems hopeless for there to be any change. If Sandy Hook didn't change things what will? Why does everything have to be so extreme in America? All we need is common sense laws related to firearms. Mandatory licenses, training, secure storage, waiting periods, etc. These regulations are completely normal in other developed countries. And people own plenty of guns in other countries. We require a license and training to operate a motor vehicle, but with firearms we don't, how does that make any sense?

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Perelygino_Klyazma t1_iydnajf wrote

We don't have politicians, government bureaucracy, or even political system that can be trusted with limits to the right to defend yourself. We know what lists lead to. And we know criminals won't follow the law, anyways. Nothing you suggested would have stopped this drug deal from happening in the corner of a WalMart parking lot.

Change isn't hopeless, but it starts with growing individuals - at home and macro-economically - not with infringing people's rights.

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Chickenmoons t1_iyb7v0z wrote

Suburbs are a dangerous place. Empty parking lots, half occupied malls. Lots of seedy activity.

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dg792 t1_iyc5yxm wrote

It’s a very safe area, the crime rate is a fraction of what it is in the City of Richmond. This might surprise you but immigrants tend to drive down the crime rate, and this area is very immigrant heavy, people who work way too hard to get up to bullshit.

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ThatChildNextDoor t1_iybg3y2 wrote

This is really not the time to go on a pervasive anti-suburb woke adventure. Someone literally has been shot, leave this talk for another time.

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AlreadyShrugging OP t1_iydlsv8 wrote

You took their comment seriously? I thought it was just shitty sarcasm.

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HatefulDan t1_iydpk0q wrote

In general, I am leery of anyone who uses "woke" in a sentence. Specially if you're white.

I'll semi allow this.

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dj1200techniques t1_iybr4y5 wrote

Wait.. What now ? Living in a suburb is considered anti-woke ? Please tell me you're joking.

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dj1200techniques t1_iybqzc2 wrote

"The victim has not yet been identified but police did confirm that he was male."
How do they know? They were DOA.

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PhoenixAshies t1_iycx8uh wrote

Usually they say that when the next of kin hasn't been notified yet. They know who he is.

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AlreadyShrugging OP t1_iydmagt wrote

It is possible to merely know the gender before confirming their specific individual identity and we can easily determine gender of someone who is already deceased.

What stupid point are you even making?

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dj1200techniques t1_iydvz94 wrote

Im just trying to understand. Why are you being agressive?

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AlreadyShrugging OP t1_iye1xep wrote

Because I don’t believe you are asking those questions in good faith.

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