Submitted by yourdadisthemilkman t3_ylgnb8 in rva
Is it legal more motorcycles to ride between cars in 2 different lanes at a stop light, so they can get to the front of the cars? I’m seeing it more and more now, especially on Huguenot Rd near the Chippenham entrance.
Frustrating thing is, the bill might have a chance of it made it to the floor, but it gets killed in committee every year.
Local delegate Betsy Carr is on the transpo committee. Email her, tell her you’re a Richmonder, and ask her to vote for the bill to allow motorcycle filtering.
The most informative comment getting down voted by the fuckers who drive SUVs and want everyone to be stuck in traffic when they are too.
Lane splitting is illegal in Virginia. Funny how wrong the law is. It is much safer to remain between cars.
This is filtering not lane splitting.
Not sure what the difference is. In California I la e split for 15 years doing exactly that. What is filtering?
Lane splitting is done at high speed (15+ mph). Lane filtering is done at low speeds (<15 mph). California is the only state that allows lane splitting. There’s a few that allow lane filtering which is what this post is talking about. But yeah, not legal in VA. I wish
I think Utah recently legalized splitting, maybe idaho? Like 3 or 4 years ago. I knew an AMA guy spearheading it.
I have seen so many CA bikers almost meet an untimely demise splitting lanes on the roads between Marin and Santa Cruz. I never knew it was a legal move.
It's actually safer when not abused by the motorcycle and the car drivers are generally educated that motorcycles are allowed to do it, so they watch for it. It's legal in most of the EU and dare I say rest of the world.
Motorcycles accelerate faster from a stop, so rather than be stuck behind cars that can kill them, they can get away from them.
Nice theory, at least. Having seen a sampling of them, driving conditions “in the rest of the world” are not my dream for the roads I share.
Really? Because driving in the EU was a dream to me. The drivers there are much better than ours, if for no other reason than the greater requirements to attain a license.
I was talking about the rest of the rest of the world, generally, where lane splitting is the de facto law and chaos reigns. I’d be happy if we drove like Germans or, hell, even Brits.
UC Berkeley did an interesting study on the safety of lane splitting a few years ago
“Can be” “relatively” safe if not done over 50 and not exceeding 15mph over the speed of general traffic. These are not the conditions under which I have witnessed most lane splitting.
filtering is when traffic is stopped at red lights.
splitting is when traffic is moving.
California is the only state that allows lane splitting
its illegal because it pisses off drivers who are stuck in traffic and who dont want anyone else to be happy
The fucking realist answer
Splitting is passing slow traffic.
Filtering is passing stopped cars.
Lane splitting” refers to the practice of riding a motorcycle between clearly marked lanes for traffic traveling in the same direction. “Filtering”refers to the practice of riding a motorcycle between stopped motor vehicles to the front of the pack, typically at a signalized intersection.
Both are currently illegal in VA
It is not legal in Virginia (and most other states), but it is legal in Utah
Nothing is enforced out there, so this is all moot. Fury Road times are upon us... filter away.
A couple of Notes:
It is not legal in VA as stated by others.
It is not about getting to the front. It is far safer for motorcycles to filter between cars that are stopped than to remain in line. Bikes are often overlooked and rear-endings happen frequently. I personally know 3 people who have been rear ended on a bike in this manner. They all filter illegally now because fuck getting hit by cars when you are on a bike, save for the one who cant walk anymore because a 25yo was too busy looking at snapchat and not the road.
It reduces congestion - even small bikes (150CC) accelerate faster than most cars on the road are able. They are clear of traffic and no longer part of traffic by utilizing the empty space and quick acceleration.
Many cops also ride and are not likely to pull over a bike for filtering safely. The remainder are not likely to pursue a bike due to the assumption that the biker will run. It is not hard to lose the cops on a bike.
Don’t you know, Motorcyclists are badass lawbreakers!
/s
as if anyone on any kind of cycle cares about the rules of the road. I wish they'd get close enough for me to open my door real quick and knock them over.
Oh. You are a bad ass.
So…you want to murder people for traffic infractions?
I am a cyclist and a motorcyclist and I care a great deal about the rules of the road. I wish I could say the same for car, SUV, and truck drivers weaving bc they’re texting, failing to use their turn signals, going slow in the passing lane, driving in the rain without headlights, following too close, and the hundreds of other outright dangerous things I see drivers do just about every time I ride.
Be careful about using broad stokes to paint a class of people. You’re wrong more than you’re right.
FACETIOUS
adjective
¹not meant to be taken seriously or literally
from dictionary.com
Yeah, but that general attitude does nothing but encourage the already reckless behavior out on the roads these days. As a potential victim of your threat, facetious or not, it comes off as very insensitive and not at all humorous.
You might be kidding, but a lot of folks out there aren’t.
do you sound like this all the time?
When it comes to my life, yes.
Seriously—any motorcyclist will tell you that even on a good day, it takes 2 hands to count the number of times some driver came within inches of killing you—often without even knowing it. It’s getting worse every year, too. Add to that the growing road rage and overall hostility people have behind the wheel and road safety becomes a very serious subject.
As it should be, by the way.
Do you make “facetious” comments about school shootings or yell fire in the theater when you’re not threatening to door slam cyclists on Reddit?
oh my god, more paragraphs? it is a single goddamn sentence i typed out without really even thinking about it that much. if you are taking every single comment like this you see that personally you are going to age yourself to death before you hit 37. You Are A Drain. I am so fucking sorry i get pissed off at cyclists sometimes.
I invite you to try that to a motorcycle. Let us know how that goes.
lunar_unit t1_iuyauki wrote
That's called lane filtering, and it's currently not legal in Virginia:
>In Virginia, two motorcyclists can ride side-by-side in the same lane. However, lane filtering, or the practice of riding a motorcycle between two lanes of stopped traffic, is prohibited. As of February 2022, lawmakers are considering creating a bill to permit lane filtering, but until then, this practice is illegal.Jul 22, 2022
https://www.lawtigers.com/blog/motorcycling-in-virginia-what-every-rider-should-know/#:~:text=In%20Virginia%2C%20two%20motorcyclists%20can,then%2C%20this%20practice%20is%20illegal.