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Sage_Advice420 t1_ixk9x9h wrote

Reply to comment by raindeerpie in Richmond school district to rename Binford, Cary, and Ginter Park for $150k. by Charlesinrichmond

Cause the path they chose led to a goddamn utopia

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raindeerpie t1_ixkbmzd wrote

i mean.. yeah. it did. we are the greatest and most powerful country in the world. things are pretty fucking awesome for us. eliminating the entire population of the south after the civil war would have devastated the country. we had huge farming and metal working industries.

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Sage_Advice420 t1_ixkfjwx wrote

We are far from the greatest country in the world. Our politicians fight over how much money to take away from public services. We have more empty houses than unhoused people. We throw out literally as much food as we consume, yet children go hungry and schools take away free lunches because "socialism".

And who rails against "socialism"? The same ones who fly confederate flags and say "The South will rise again!" unironically. The same people who committed treason in the Civil War had kids who had kids who had kids who had kids who.... committed sedition and tried to overthrow the government because they couldn't accept the fact that their guy lost. Because losing is such an ingrained cultural pain to them, they HAVE to lose constantly so they can feel something. And this often boils over into racially motivated violence, politically motivated violence, sexually motivated violence,.. all because the core values of the confederacy were never burned away. They were planted, nurtured, fertilized, and its getting pretty ripe with fruit nowadays..

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raindeerpie t1_ixsfadm wrote

man. you have a real hate boner. even if all those things were even half as bad as you pretend they are we are still doing better than most countries in the world. go live in literally any other country for a few weeks and tell me its so bad here.

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Sage_Advice420 t1_ixt0nn4 wrote

I would LOVE to live in Japan or Sweden or Poland or Peru or Cuba or Vietnam or Kenya or The Somoan Islands for a few weeks! Public transportation, good infrastructure, universal Healthcare, effectice firearm safety laws, free university, and open borders. Sounds fuckin awesome, mate

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raindeerpie t1_ixxxkw4 wrote

oh how naive you are.

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Sage_Advice420 t1_ixyggae wrote

America was never great. It was founded by slavers.

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raindeerpie t1_iy3n62b wrote

not sure that's entirely accurate. but we definitely went along with the slave trade and made it a pretty integral part of our survival and culture for a while. but so did many many many other countries throughout time. some still do it. At least we got rid of it pretty quickly.

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Sage_Advice420 t1_iy3wudc wrote

Literally every founding father owned enslaved people.

And 400 years is a very long time. Your answer reflects very privileged, undereducated, and whitewashed exposure to Western History and its relation to the slave trade

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raindeerpie t1_iy3yfv8 wrote

and your answer represents a very small minded view of the world. 400 years is nothing. no countries hands are clean. surviving is hard and the ones who do didn't do it nicely. what matters is that we learned from our mistakes and are better because of it. things we do everyday today might be considered horrific and barbaric crimes in 100 years. I certainty won't judge you for it. just learn from it.

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Sage_Advice420 t1_iy3z3zq wrote

You're defending human slavery in America with "well, everyone else did it"

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raindeerpie t1_iy40p4k wrote

see you just keep coming back to that. you're not listening to me. i never once defended slavery. it was an awful terrible thing. but it is not who we are as a country now and the crimes of our fathers our not ours to carry. you are just going to torture yourself if all you can see about yourself is what your forefathers did 200 years ago.

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Sage_Advice420 t1_iy4a42t wrote

The fuck you mean "it's not who we are as a country now"?

You been in a coma from 2012 until yesterday??

There's 2 groups of people in this country: the first group is opposed to slavery, racism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, fascism, and racially motivated vigilantes. The 2nd group supports all of those things.

The 2nd group elected the 45th president. The 2nd group tried to overthrow the government in a violent insurrection that resulted in the murders of 4 cops. The 2nd group has gone in record as wanting to make it illegal to marry someone of the same gender, illegal to marry someone of a different race, illegal to have access to lifesaving healthcare and prenatal care, illegal to read certain books, illegal to TEACH THAT AMERICA WAS BUILT BY RACIST SLAVE OWNERS.

One 1 group would ever deny the historical facts that this country was "discovered" by racist slavers, founded by racist slavers, spent the next few hundred years run by racist slavers and racist deacendants of slavers writing all the laws, and its not the first group of educated, compassionate people.

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raindeerpie t1_iy4cg9k wrote

again. you are thinking very small minded. you are only looking at a very small piece of the pie and focusing solely on a very very small minority of people. the vast majority of the people you say are in that 2nd group do not think that way at all. the people you put in group one have killed just as many people in far more violent protests. i suggest you stop looking at social media for your news. come up with your own opinions instead of parroting what you hear on reddit and network news.

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