DUI checkpoint at 5:00?

Submitted by spintiff t3_zzd23v in rva

Just passed through one on Forest Hill and Janke. I was curious as to why it's set up so early or if it's preliminary for tomorrow.

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docskreba t1_j2ay6gw wrote

Ain’t no time frame on violating the fourth amendment.

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j3ngy t1_j2b8osj wrote

What exactly are your rights here?

If I were stopped, I would just ask if I'm being detained and if im not, im free to go, correct? Do you legally have to submit to a test?

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juwanna-blomie t1_j2b8y7f wrote

You don’t even legally have to submit to a DUI test if you’re pulled over. But you CAN be arrested for obstruction.

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Nothing2SeeHere4U t1_j2bcpv0 wrote

I believe you can lose your license, not obstruction. Technically they can't force you to comply if they don't have reason to arrest you otherwise, but your VA license requires you to agree on penalty of revocation

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BurkeyTurger t1_j2benmm wrote

You can refuse field sobriety tests and the portable breath test without penalty (legally). You lose your license if you refuse the real breathalyzer at the police station after you are formally arrested.

Relevant bit of code: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/18.2-268.2/

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docskreba t1_j2bgvqb wrote

Look at this guy with his fancy sources of relevant information.

(but really, thanks for the info)

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Supaspex t1_j2bgt5p wrote

You don't say anything, hand over your valid driver's license and current registration...and say nothing. The stop is legal (law enforcement can use it to ensure proper tags, license plate, headlights, etc. are in good working order).

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docskreba t1_j2bfhxo wrote

Honestly, I’d have to look it up. I’ve lived in so many different places I don’t know what the laws are here. Like others have said though, even if you are right, they can make your life miserable in other ways.

IMO, the fourth amendment died as soon as the Patriot Act was passed in 2001. We gave Caesar his power and he isn’t giving it back.

I’m also fully aware that I’m a middle-aged white guy and any interaction with law enforcement isn’t going to escalate unless I start some shit. Not gonna see me on a viral video challenging the guys with guns, itchy trigger fingers, and relatively little training. I’ve got a kid to take care of.

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CoffeexCup t1_j2ax16r wrote

DUI checkpoints are just called DUI checkpoints. They’re checking inspections, registrations, warrants, whatever they want.

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guptaxpn t1_j2ayw3h wrote

I wasn't sure if I had my current registration... So I just drove away from it. No crime against saving time.

I've got to go pick up my baby.

Oh, and my registration is good.

So stupid. Why not do this tomorrow? Are they trying to get some year end quota?

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ohihaveasubscription t1_j2b2017 wrote

It's new years weekend dumb dumb

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guptaxpn t1_j2b8q8j wrote

It was 5:15pm on the day before new years on a route people take to get home after work. They weren't looking for drunks at 5pm.

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ThaWZA t1_j2bzmv2 wrote

Tbf this is a major day-drinking week as a lot of people have off work.

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1975hh3 t1_j2c4lho wrote

Everyday is a major day drinking day. Source: me. I work in a restaurant.

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Colt1911-45 t1_j2c64is wrote

Probably being visible to make people think before they possibly drink and drive over the New Years holiday. Its more of a deterrent similar to a cop sitting on the highway doing radar is more about slowing down speeders than catching them and writing tickets. I used to go 55 plus over the Lee Bridge until I saw motorcycle cops sitting at the end. Made me think twice before gassing it on that straightaway.

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Vivid_blue t1_j2bha1d wrote

I got hung up for 25 minutes, and I was at the front of that line. I can imagine a lot of people were late to things.

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Asterion7 t1_j2b0peh wrote

That's an odd spot for it.

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spintiff OP t1_j2b13vt wrote

Well, it is right next to the Veil.

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freetimerva t1_j2d4hn1 wrote

Very odd. Considering at 3pm they had a checkpoint at forest hill and Bliley.

I was at riverside at 5pm and there was no checkpoint at jahnke.

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friendlierfun t1_j2bn9o0 wrote

Practicing for Locker Room people

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JustineLeah t1_j2ea07f wrote

People start early, trust me.

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mayo__nose t1_j2bjtex wrote

Can someone confirm exactly where it is? A friend is in the area and said he didn’t see anything.

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freetimerva t1_j2d4lqg wrote

I went thru one at forest hill and bliley when this was posted. And did not see one at forest hill and jahnke.

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SquirrelBurritos t1_j2bkst5 wrote

There’s another one on Midlo, right near George Wythe H.S. heading south

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AgreeableRaspberry85 t1_j2dl7i7 wrote

There was an accident near that intersection per the active calls list around that time. Not sure if it was changed to a checkpoint or just doing some paperwork.

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spintiff OP t1_j2eassv wrote

There was an accident going east with a truck and a bunch of motorcycles hanging around, not sure if one of their pals got swiped. The checkpoint was just past it on the other side going west.

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Chickenmoons t1_j2b4g12 wrote

Good, that’s a good spot for one.

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