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3vanb00th t1_j4n5def wrote

Unpopular opinion: Exactly why I don't tip when I pick up food. I worked in restaurants for a long time, and we used to always say, "If you don't wanna tip, order takeout." The idea of tipping someone for handing me a bag has never made sense.

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terenn_nash t1_j4ngz5c wrote

did 11 years in food service, whole heartedly agree.

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[deleted] t1_j4ns4jw wrote

NYDeli now adds 20% tip auto to your bill for take out.

If I didn’t have my kid in my hands in middle of whatever festival was going on in carytown and wasn’t standing in between two drunks at the bar picking up my food I would have said something.

It’s cheaper to eat there and tip the normal 18% than to do takeout and have 20% auto added. What type of bs is this

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fractalflatulence t1_j4psnm0 wrote

>What type of bs is this

This is the direct result of the restaurant industry guilting/bullying their customer base into compensating their employee's wages due to covid.

Sure, restaurants took a hit initially but for well over a year now it's been business as usual.

20% autograt for takeout is garbage 99.99% of the time... but especially if it's not disclosed when you order.

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[deleted] t1_j4ptf3g wrote

Yeah they are simply just doing a money grab. It’s so obvious.

Inflation in general is up bc companies are making record profits.

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lennybriscoforthewin t1_j4r0mfz wrote

The Continental also adds a tip for take-out, but I think with take-out, a lot of times a server (who does not make minimum wage) is packing and ringing up the take-out, so they are spending time on your order when they would normally make a tip. At Shindigz, it's literally someone putting cake in a box. I hope they are not paid server's wages, because they are not servers. I guessed (wrongly?) that they are paid above minimum wage.

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[deleted] t1_j4r4co2 wrote

I’m sorry but that’s not my problem.

Restaurant industry needs to start fighting for living wages and stop shooting itself in the foot pushing for tipping. This is exactly a way restaurants take advantage of them by making them work while not being tipped (prepping take out food).

Again, not my problem. I’m ordering take out for a reason. Just like I order subway and chipotle - no tipping is even asked for.

Someone’s livelihood should not be dependent on the generosity of strangers, especially when the strangers are forced to tip in some type of surprise billing scheme.

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Fratghanistan t1_j4tiu1z wrote

Aside from what tennisprofosho said, a very minimal time is spent doing that. I've worked in a restaurant as a waiter and dealing with carry out orders. Charging 20% on takeout is straight up criminal.

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thewok t1_j4nqze1 wrote

I usually leave a buck if I'm picking up

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Ear_Enthusiast t1_j4px63s wrote

Doesn't matter how you feel about tipping. What matters is that the employee was tipped and it's illegal as fuck for an employer to take tips away from an employee.

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Dictalei t1_j4npu1g wrote

Sometimes the individual handing you your food was also involved in preparing the meal in some way. Both the restaurants I’ve worked at had front of house employees do some of their shift in the kitchen adding garnishes and things of that nature. I agree that it’s far less common to tip for takeout, but sometimes the person giving you your food is more involved than you might expect.

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OPACY_Magic t1_j4oboho wrote

Isn’t that what wages are for? Why should I subsidize a restaurant owner for not paying their employees?

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Dictalei t1_j4ocxpd wrote

Because that’s the industry standard? Servers make around $2 an hour so the expectation is that patrons tip. I wish that wasn’t the case and that business owners pay a reasonable wage, but that’s not what’s going on. People handling to go orders could be on that end of the spectrum or they could be earning upwards of $15 an hour. As a customer, there’s no way to know without asking — my only point was to bring to light the concept that someone isn’t necessarily just handing you your food and expecting a tip. Tipping culture has gotten way out of hand for sure, but it’s not always black and white.

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OPACY_Magic t1_j4ogmo8 wrote

>> Because that’s the industry standard? Servers make around $2 an hour so the expectation is that patrons tip. I wish that wasn’t the case and that business owners pay a reasonable wage, but that’s not what’s going on.

I mean this thread is talking about tips for carry out. In what world does someone earn a tip simply for putting food in bag? I mean why not tip the grocery store worker who bags your food? Why not tip the person at Macy’s who takes the tags off and puts your clothes in the bag? What about the person who looks up parts to your car at autozone? When should it stop? And for the record I usually tip $1 when I get takeout but I hate how it’s the norm now.

One of my favorite things about traveling abroad is the dining experience. I can sit at a table by myself enjoying a meal and coffee for two hours and nobody cares because tipping culture doesn’t exist everywhere else like here. It makes the experience bad by viewing your time at a table or party size as a $ sign, rather than a place to enjoy a nice meal peacefully.

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Dictalei t1_j4oh4fe wrote

I don’t disagree with you, my original comment was just to point out that in the food service industry in the US sometimes the person who meets you with the swivel of the iPad and tip option isn’t just handing you the food and has had a hand in putting the order together in another way. Some front of house staff are paid hourly, some are paid based on tips, and some are paid based on a combo. How you tip is up to you. Not your job as the customer to figure it out, but it is important to know it’s not all the same setup everywhere.

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anony804 t1_j4owc41 wrote

They think that their protest is actually doing something. “I refuse to tip for this!!!”

Okay, well if you are making an ethical/moral argument about why you shouldn’t be tipping, then you should ethically and morally be ordering food at places you’re sure pays their to go people fairly.

Otherwise, it’s not that you’re super passionate about the issue. I bet you won’t tell that to go person to their face you don’t believe in tipping them. It’s that you are mad at the system and you don’t want to tip but you want to have your unethical cake and eat it too.

(General you, not you as a person)

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1one1000two1thousand t1_j4t3gdw wrote

People who are mad about auto-grats at 20% or whatever are flat out cheap. They feel they have the power to short change a worker and decide based on their performance what they deserve. I’m positive those same people are not performing at 100% at their office jobs or whatever salaried job they’re at, all of the time. Those same complainers make mistakes, they have bad days, but they’re not getting shorted on their salaries for things like that. But when a server or tipped worker, does something “wrong”, it’s totally acceptable to these cheapskates to dock their pay.

So when people are mad about auto gratuities, they’re just flat out cheap/have power issues.

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anony804 t1_j4ta9ti wrote

I honestly wouldn’t have guessed RVA would have aggressive down voters at saying “maybe by not tipping your to go person you might be punishing the wrong person” but hey, you learn something new every day.

I don’t go places that I know don’t pay hourly for to go if I don’t want to tip. It’s one thing if you don’t know but if you know and just don’t care you’re an asshole in my book

Agreed about everything you said about auto grat. It’s the same concept as them adding the wages to the menu prices. It’s just going directly to the servers instead of increasing the menu 20 percent

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anony804 t1_j4ow3pi wrote

I agree with you in theory but in practice it is not the person who is bagging up the food who is choosing to be paid less than minimum wage. Some to go servers are paid less than minimum wage before the bump up. And yeah you can say “but they have to pay them minimum wage” but in reality your little protest isn’t hurting the business owner at all cause you’re still getting your food there. It’s just the person working to go who spent time on your order who may have gotten a little extra who is gonna wait for the dollar or two on their check that comes out to fifty bucks a week

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neverwrong804 t1_j4ptaii wrote

Sorry if you're really friendly or helpful I might tip on pickup, but I'm not tipping someone to grab a ramekin or sprinkle parsley. That's just part of the job. (Source over 15 years both management)

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Lilliputian0513 t1_j4ntega wrote

Yeah I tip $1 per dessert, salad, or soup ordered for takeout because front of house staff often prepares/packages those. But I almost never get take out anyway.

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