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OPACY_Magic t1_j4oboho wrote

Reply to comment by Dictalei in Shyndigz on W Cary not paying out tips. by itzaxumzn

Isn’t that what wages are for? Why should I subsidize a restaurant owner for not paying their employees?

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Dictalei t1_j4ocxpd wrote

Because that’s the industry standard? Servers make around $2 an hour so the expectation is that patrons tip. I wish that wasn’t the case and that business owners pay a reasonable wage, but that’s not what’s going on. People handling to go orders could be on that end of the spectrum or they could be earning upwards of $15 an hour. As a customer, there’s no way to know without asking — my only point was to bring to light the concept that someone isn’t necessarily just handing you your food and expecting a tip. Tipping culture has gotten way out of hand for sure, but it’s not always black and white.

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OPACY_Magic t1_j4ogmo8 wrote

>> Because that’s the industry standard? Servers make around $2 an hour so the expectation is that patrons tip. I wish that wasn’t the case and that business owners pay a reasonable wage, but that’s not what’s going on.

I mean this thread is talking about tips for carry out. In what world does someone earn a tip simply for putting food in bag? I mean why not tip the grocery store worker who bags your food? Why not tip the person at Macy’s who takes the tags off and puts your clothes in the bag? What about the person who looks up parts to your car at autozone? When should it stop? And for the record I usually tip $1 when I get takeout but I hate how it’s the norm now.

One of my favorite things about traveling abroad is the dining experience. I can sit at a table by myself enjoying a meal and coffee for two hours and nobody cares because tipping culture doesn’t exist everywhere else like here. It makes the experience bad by viewing your time at a table or party size as a $ sign, rather than a place to enjoy a nice meal peacefully.

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Dictalei t1_j4oh4fe wrote

I don’t disagree with you, my original comment was just to point out that in the food service industry in the US sometimes the person who meets you with the swivel of the iPad and tip option isn’t just handing you the food and has had a hand in putting the order together in another way. Some front of house staff are paid hourly, some are paid based on tips, and some are paid based on a combo. How you tip is up to you. Not your job as the customer to figure it out, but it is important to know it’s not all the same setup everywhere.

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anony804 t1_j4owc41 wrote

They think that their protest is actually doing something. “I refuse to tip for this!!!”

Okay, well if you are making an ethical/moral argument about why you shouldn’t be tipping, then you should ethically and morally be ordering food at places you’re sure pays their to go people fairly.

Otherwise, it’s not that you’re super passionate about the issue. I bet you won’t tell that to go person to their face you don’t believe in tipping them. It’s that you are mad at the system and you don’t want to tip but you want to have your unethical cake and eat it too.

(General you, not you as a person)

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1one1000two1thousand t1_j4t3gdw wrote

People who are mad about auto-grats at 20% or whatever are flat out cheap. They feel they have the power to short change a worker and decide based on their performance what they deserve. I’m positive those same people are not performing at 100% at their office jobs or whatever salaried job they’re at, all of the time. Those same complainers make mistakes, they have bad days, but they’re not getting shorted on their salaries for things like that. But when a server or tipped worker, does something “wrong”, it’s totally acceptable to these cheapskates to dock their pay.

So when people are mad about auto gratuities, they’re just flat out cheap/have power issues.

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anony804 t1_j4ta9ti wrote

I honestly wouldn’t have guessed RVA would have aggressive down voters at saying “maybe by not tipping your to go person you might be punishing the wrong person” but hey, you learn something new every day.

I don’t go places that I know don’t pay hourly for to go if I don’t want to tip. It’s one thing if you don’t know but if you know and just don’t care you’re an asshole in my book

Agreed about everything you said about auto grat. It’s the same concept as them adding the wages to the menu prices. It’s just going directly to the servers instead of increasing the menu 20 percent

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anony804 t1_j4ow3pi wrote

I agree with you in theory but in practice it is not the person who is bagging up the food who is choosing to be paid less than minimum wage. Some to go servers are paid less than minimum wage before the bump up. And yeah you can say “but they have to pay them minimum wage” but in reality your little protest isn’t hurting the business owner at all cause you’re still getting your food there. It’s just the person working to go who spent time on your order who may have gotten a little extra who is gonna wait for the dollar or two on their check that comes out to fifty bucks a week

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