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Bumbalatti t1_j5yk8nx wrote

700 guns taken from cars. Majority unlocked...how do you even quantify the stupidity? My brain is broken after reading this.

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Gamegis t1_j5ynpks wrote

Well when you consider how many people are stupid as shit and then also how many people own guns, it’s sadly not surprising.

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Asterion7 t1_j5ypbcg wrote

Also they face almost no consequences when their guns are used in a crime later on.

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JVorhees t1_j5yqn8w wrote

It's almost like they're selling guns and claiming they've been stolen for this very reason. Nah, that couldn't be it.

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chairmanbrando t1_j5zwxq9 wrote

Ah, fuck. It's so obvious I didn't even consider it. I wonder what a Glock goes for on the black market... >_>

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SuccessfulPres t1_j60qpa7 wrote

margins are pretty low because straw purchases are so common. At least in Chicago, the markup was basically about $100 only

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chairmanbrando t1_j60r416 wrote

Well, damn. That's not even remotely worth the trouble in trying to find a buyer and meeting in mysterious places with armed strangers.

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SuccessfulPres t1_j605sr5 wrote

which is why guns need to have a strict liability... this happened so much in Chicago. It's so easy to buy guns in Indiana and just sell them in Chicago.

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ol_moosie t1_j5zbxkd wrote

A few years ago I overheard a guy on the phone with dispatch reporting that someone had stolen a gun from the glovebox in his soft top, plastic windows Jeep Wrangler at the JRPS Reedy Creek parking lot

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Bumbalatti t1_j5yo892 wrote

I suppose basic algebra does answer that. I need to go find some hope somewhere.

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raindeerpie t1_j5z6969 wrote

there really should be some better regulations for securing guns. we can't ban guns or stop people from buying them. but we can at least require them to use and store them properly. it could solve so many issues.

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MLM1414 t1_j5z6x9p wrote

Exactly, it’s one thing if you leave your car unlocked in your garage at home but just to leave it unlocked in public is utter stupidity.

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ZephyrInfernum t1_j604t8y wrote

Even if it's at home in your garage, a gun left in a vehicle is asking for problems. A gun should be like eyeglasses; they're either on your person or secured in their case (I know, people aren't this careful with glasses either, but they should)

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CptJaxxParrow t1_j606jug wrote

I really don't understand the whole concept of a "truck gun" or having a dedicated firearm you regularly leave in your vehicle. It's just asking to be stolen. My CCW is either on my person, within arms reach, or locked and unloaded. It requires 0 effort to carry it back and forth to my car when I'm going out. People with truck guns are blatantly lazy and irresponsible

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ZephyrInfernum t1_j60ddyv wrote

Absolutely agree. That's the problem with "responsible" gun owners, a lot aren't actually as responsible as they think they are; they "grew up with guns" or sat through a hunting certification course without actually retaining anything.

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ThomasJeffersonHOO t1_j5zhu2k wrote

Do you think the people that regulation is targeted towards would actually abide that regulation? There’s almost no way you can enforce this unless police randomly raid cars or houses.

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raindeerpie t1_j5zmes0 wrote

I think it would force responsible owners to better secure their weapons and cut down on accidental deaths. especially with children. it won't stop car break-in/gun theft, no law will. but if there are consequences to leaving a gun unsecured than it will makes it a less desirable option for trafficking guns.

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BurkeyTurger t1_j5zgn9i wrote

There is a bill in the GA this session, I expect the R's will kill it though if it makes it out of the Senate.

https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?231+sum+SB901

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raindeerpie t1_j5znmiq wrote

looks like a good law to me. if anything it should be stricter. Having it be just a $500 fine is not that strong. criminal charges should be included. Republicans should be ok with this bill. but who knows how the vote will go.

I wonder why they only include handguns? I guess including rifles and shotguns would unfairly target hunters.

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BurkeyTurger t1_j5zpvyw wrote

I'm not sure if there are enough long gun thefts from cars that it is as big of an issue, usually if you're out and about with a long gun you're either going to the range or hunting rather than keeping it in the car constantly(which IMO is a bad idea anyway).

Most of mine are just in soft cases too for transport so while I could stick a little luggage lock on the zippers it wouldn't really accomplish anything nor would they fit in a glovebox or car safe.

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raindeerpie t1_j6011a0 wrote

I think you're right. but I just keep picturing gunracks in the back of pick up trucks.

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Charlesinrichmond t1_j609t90 wrote

It's a big state so it probably exists somewhere but I've never seen a gun rack in a pickup truck in Virginia

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geneb0322 t1_j61h81g wrote

I saw one or two 30 years ago or so, but haven't seen one since. They're definitely not remotely common.

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Charlesinrichmond t1_j61hvj3 wrote

Yeah and I know a lot of people with guns, people who hunt, and people who own pickup trucks so I would figure I'd have a higher chance of seeing them than most

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BurkeyTurger t1_j5zh9tm wrote

I'm sure they all considered themselves "responsible gun owners" too.

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kneel_yung t1_j5zlx8h wrote

the venn diagram of stupid people and gun owners is very nearly a circle.

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