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coalmines OP t1_j5owdbt wrote

News flash: we live in a first world country.

I’m not vegan or vegetarian but support people who choose those diets and also restaurants providing options for them.

Tofu and beans are way cheaper then meat and eggs too so I don’t really know what you are getting at saying it’s “bourgeois”.

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progressiveinva69 t1_j5p29ri wrote

People who are subsisting on whatever meager food they can find. Find your lifestyle choice offensive.

“They make for bad travelers and bad guests. The notion that before you even set out to go to Thailand, you say, “I’m not interested,” or you’re unwilling to try things that people take so personally and are so proud of and so generous with, I don’t understand that, and I think it’s rude. You’re at Grandma’s house, you eat what Grandma serves you.”

“Vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter faction, the vegans, are a persistent irritant to any chef worth a damn. To me, life without veal stock, pork fat, sausage, organ meat, demi-glace, or even stinky cheese is a life not worth living. Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for, the pure enjoyment of food.”

“I don’t have any understanding of it. Being a vegan is a first-world phenomenon, completely self-indulgent.”

-Anthony Bourdain

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Flex_Bacontrim t1_j5p765o wrote

You're really going to back up your point with a quote from a rich dude that made a living making food for the wealthy and could afford to travel the world to eat local cuisines, many of which include a large amount of vegan fare?

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Pretend-Bread-8856 t1_j5p5fol wrote

You have talked to these people? Global warming is vastly impacted by the industrialized production of meat. You know who suffers the most from the effects of global warming? People living in the 3rd world. Take your self righteous bullshit elsewhere.

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pumicepickle t1_j5p51u3 wrote

I mean I hate an arrogant vegan as much as the next guy but instantly saying "gross" to vegan food is doing the exact same thing they do.

I'm not vegan or vegetarian, but goddamn some vegan food is delicious and could knock "regular" versions out of the water.

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whoknewgreenshrew t1_j5q1rwq wrote

I love veal and veal stock. I raise rabbits in my back yard and my wife makes a mean rabbit pate. Rabbit stock and fried kidneys in my quail eggs cannot be beat. Meat, the best protein considering amino acids are the building blocks of protein and the most important ones can only be found in animal proteins. My friend is a vegan and the amount of shit he has to take, supplement wise. Just eat some fucking meat. Don't even need a lot.

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TripawdCorgi t1_j5q7mmy wrote

It sounds like your friend has something else going on entirely because most vegans either don't take supplements or if they do they take B12 and/or D. Interestingly enough, a large percentage of non vegans are deficient in vitamin D, particularly in the US, it's not really a diet thing. It's more of a sedentary office lifestyle causing us to miss out on the sun thing. And you don't have to take B12 if you get it from fortified foods, many of which are already things non vegans consume regularly and where they get their B12 from as well. Your friend just may have other things going on that they don't feel comfortable discussing with you, or maybe they're misinformed about what they actually need to take (which isn't a far stretch since the general population is as well thanks to advertising and marketing).

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