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Lokky t1_j5y88iv wrote

Reply to comment by RefrigeratorRater in The new "district approved" stickers that Hanover teachers have to use because rainbows aren't allowed by Awrnawr

How do you even manage to take a message of equality and acceptance and call it a battle flag, like come on now.

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RefrigeratorRater t1_j5ydxqk wrote

It’s used as a way to identify “which side” one is on. Otherwise the words on this print out are sufficient to share the message you mention. The same way the Don’t Tread On Me license plate is a battle flag for tea partiers

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Lokky t1_j5ye93l wrote

There are no sides, there is just a bunch of bigots who wish they lived in the bronze age and then there is the rest of us who live in a society.

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Kamesod t1_j5yk1xu wrote

Accepting people’s sexual preferences is not picking a side. It’s the neutral, expected way to be. Anything outside of that is just antiquated bigotry that will fade into the abyss in the next few decades.

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anthropophagoose t1_j5ykl9b wrote

This is the issue- this isn’t sides on an ideological discussion (no matter how bad folks on the right want to present it as such), the symbol is about recognizing people’s right to be treated as people, plain and simple.

Treating a rainbow flag like it’s representing some kind of special interest group, or even a symbols of “wokeness” is a discursive tactic that makes it seem like a political discussion but it’s really not- its very simply a message that a large spectrum (hence the rainbow) of sexual and gender identities that have a history of discrimination against them are accepted unilaterally and equally as human beings. This shouldn’t even be politicized at this point, let alone seen as a “battle” statement.

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jpkoushel t1_j5yq1ux wrote

I know you're getting a lot of replies but I hope you have time to read this.

The reason that it's not a battle flag is because it's inherently not two-sided. If the sides were, "Nobody can be gay" and "Everybody has to be gay", you would have a valid point. However, that's not the case.

Right now the conflict is one side saying, "Nobody can be gay" but the opposition is just saying "It's okay to be gay and you should expect the same respect the rest of society gets by default".

If you're not gay that's fine. Nobody is excluding straight people from anything. People are just asking to be able to show support to a group that's currently and historically been given a hard time just for existing.

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RefrigeratorRater t1_j5ywsy7 wrote

I’m of the middle side where I just want people to be free to exist doing whatever but don’t want a political battle happening in school between the sides you mention. The absence of displaying a rainbow is not the absence of support for the meaning behind it, but it feels like that’s how people interpret it.

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jpkoushel t1_j5yy5j2 wrote

The side posting flags etc is the middle side. They're the ones saying be gay if you are and don't be if you're not. Nobody is forcing anyone to partake in anything they don't want to

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cubeberg t1_j5yru1q wrote

To be clear, "which side" is a choice between "I think people deserve to be treated with respect" vs. "I'm a bigot". This is a "I like pancakes" and "so you hate waffles?" situation.

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