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evanmike t1_j849zn8 wrote

Reply to comment by KetosisMD in Non-processed meat-based diet during puppyhood may protect dogs against certain digestive disorders later in life while kibble is a potential risk factors. by neline_the_lioness

Corn and wheat definitely are not for dogs

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[deleted] t1_j85x3ft wrote

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BafangFan t1_j87a96h wrote

Corn and wheat aren't even good for humans.

They are fillers that you eat when you can't get enough animal protein.

What do we feed cows and pigs and chickens to make them fat? Corn and soybean.

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[deleted] t1_j87bpi4 wrote

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BafangFan t1_j87cbar wrote

Here's an article about why corn is bad for cattle:

https://www.lakeforest.edu/news/a-difficult-reality-to-digest-the-effects-of-a-corn-based-diet-on-the-digestive-system-of-cattle

>However, evolutionarily cattle are adapted to pasture diets not corn-based diets. Cattle have complex digestive systems, consisting of the rumen, the reticulum, the omasum, and the abomasums, which allow them to digest cellulose and hemicellulose found in grass blades. The addition of corn to the diet of a steer changes the chemistry of its digestive system and leads to serious illnesses, including bloat and acidosis. This illness, which is extremely painful for cattle, brings into question the ethics of feeding cattle a corn-based diet and the ethics of the policies surrounding corn production.

Here's one about corn and humans

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/is-corn-good-for-you#downsides

>A study in 115 adults with obesity and type 2 diabetes found that eating a diet with only 14% of calories coming from carbs resulted in more stable blood sugars and a reduced medication need compared to getting 53% of the daily calories from carbs (16Trusted Source).

>A 24-year Harvard study in 133,468 adults found that each additional daily serving of corn was associated with a 2-pound (0.9-kg) weight gain per 4-year interval. Potatoes, peas and other starchy vegetables did not contribute to as much weight gain (18Trusted Source).

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evanmike t1_j860cil wrote

False. They are carnivores. Wheat and corn are even bad for humans and we are omnivores

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[deleted] t1_j863kjt wrote

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evanmike t1_j86479s wrote

Do you know how prevalent diabetes is in those people and dogs because of corn and wheat? Dogs and people sure didn't get diabetes until that change to their diet

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Shantor t1_j862vfn wrote

Domestic dogs are omnivores. They have adapted to eat the same food that humans have over the years and their nutritional requirements are much different than their wild canine companions.

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evanmike t1_j8637z5 wrote

That is why dogs have diabetes now. They do not get diabetes in the wild. Grain is not for dogs

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Shantor t1_j86adoj wrote

Looooooooool dogs mostly don't get diabetes in the wild cause they die as a young adult, or they die when they get it.

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Shantor t1_j86eipk wrote

Also adding type 1 diabetes (the type dogs get) is an autoimmune diseases unrelated to nutrition (differing from cats who get type 2 mostly). In fact, the best way to regulate a dog's diabetes is to feed them a high fiber diet. A high protein diet leads to glucose spikes and crashes, which have a higher chance of leading to deadly hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

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evanmike t1_j86ey0z wrote

"Protein leads to glucose spikes"........... you need to stop now and learn what glucose is

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Shantor t1_j86f3gs wrote

I said high protein DIETS. No one should be feeding their dog straight meat. They need glucose for their brain just like all mammals do.

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evanmike t1_j86g2sa wrote

You need to read more. You do not know what you are talking about.

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messopotatoesmia t1_j87kngn wrote

No, they're not carnivores - they're omnivores. They'll quite happily eat vegetables - carrot, celery, potatoes, beets, and fruit - berries, and even citrus.

Wolves are also omnivorous.

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Chakkaaa t1_j84ct35 wrote

They can eat them, just not the healthiest all the time cause carbs or they could have insensitivity too for some. They are mainly protein and fat eaters with some fibers and carbs on the side

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