takingastep t1_j8nf49n wrote
>When threatened with the possibility of starvation, early humans developed a survival response that sent them foraging for food. Yet foraging is effective only if metabolism is inhibited in various parts of the brain. Foraging requires focus, rapid assessment, impulsivity, exploratory behavior and risk taking. It is enhanced by blocking whatever gets in the way, like recent memories and attention to time. Fructose, a kind of sugar, helps damp down these centers, allowing more focus on food gathering.
>In fact, the researchers found the entire foraging response was set in motion by the metabolism of fructose whether it was eaten or produced in the body. Metabolizing fructose and its byproduct, intracellular uric acid, was critical to the survival of both humans and animals.
>The researchers noted that fructose reduces blood flow to the brain’s cerebral cortex involved in self-control, as well as the hippocampus and thalamus. Meanwhile, blood flow increased around the visual cortex associated with food reward. All of this stimulated the foraging response.
>“We believe that initially the fructose-dependent reduction in cerebral metabolism in these regions was reversible and meant to be beneficial,” Johnson said. “But chronic and persistent reduction in cerebral metabolism driven by recurrent fructose metabolism leads to progressive brain atrophy and neuron loss with all of the features of AD.”
Fructose, as in "high fructose corn syrup"? It may reduce self-control and encourage people to seek out excess food for the mental reward stimulus? And long-term, repeated metabolism of it may contribute to Alzheimer's (which implies that excess consumption of it makes it happen even faster)?
Sigh. If I'm understanding that correctly, I'd think this would count as a motive for various food industries to intentionally use excessive fructose in various food products to manipulate people to buy excess food/drink against their will/better judgment. It would also probably count as evidence of harm caused by including it in food/drink products. One would need harder evidence to prove that they deliberately and knowingly did so, though.
PracticalShoulder916 t1_j8nhf59 wrote
I agree on all points. 'Sugar' will probably be responsible for more diseases than we currently know .
dogoodsilence1 t1_j8nt3yp wrote
“This leads to overeating of high fat, sugary and salty food promoting excess fructose production” sounds like every fast food joint who has definitely done studies on the response the brain brings when encountering such rewarding substances
Darkhorseman81 t1_j8pxxla wrote
They knew from 1908 to 1936. 100 human model studies 10s of thousands of animal model studies.
10% Sugar or fructose and 3% salt diet causes metabolic disorder and vasculature dementias.
They confirmed it all the way back then.
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Contain_the_Pain t1_j8o4njr wrote
It’s just as bad as tobacco
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YouAreGenuinelyDumb t1_j8oal0j wrote
We already know a bit about fructose and how it compares to other sugars. I would avoid assuming that this was some intentional 4D science chess maneuver, though. The only real reason high fructose corn syrup is used is because it is cheap. The money they earn from fructose getting people to buy more food pales in comparison to the amount of money they saved using corn syrup instead of sugar.
CronoDAS t1_j8pdajx wrote
Sucrose (table sugar) is half fructose anyway. The only reason that high fructose corn syrup is cheaper than sugar in the United States is that, in order to protect American farmers, the government puts a limit on the amount of sugar that can be imported from foreign countries.
darkest_irish_lass t1_j8pxebw wrote
Gotta get rid of all this damn corn somehow.
Source : am a Midwesterner
CrowdingSplash9 t1_j8q7d66 wrote
Thank you for the ethanol! My truck runs e85 and it is smooth and quiet.
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fuqqkevindurant t1_j8tno2v wrote
It's cheaper bc corn is subsidized in the US as well.
Krispyn t1_j8nqkmr wrote
>I'd think this would count as a motive for various food industries to intentionally use excessive fructose in various food products to manipulate people to buy excess food/drink against their will/better judgment.
It already is, I think. Fructose tastes much sweeter than the same amount of glucose, which is why so many fast-food products use high-fructose syrups. It is also known fructose does not induce satiety the way glucose does.
https://news.yale.edu/2013/01/04/study-suggests-effect-fructose-brain-may-promote-overeating
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Faruhoinguh t1_j8oixpy wrote
This sounds as though it is a mechanism existing within all of us, meaning there should be high correlation between excessive fructose consumption and Alzheimers. I don't know if there is. Did they find something in people with Alzheimers like hyperactivity of the fructose foraging response? A higher level of a protein involved in it? Mind you I did not actually read the article
Spoonmanners2 t1_j8pot1h wrote
They haven’t found anything. It’s just an untested theory among many that could be true. It doesn’t explain the hereditary nature of early onset and would suggest diet it’s just diet — but then overweight people should get Alzheimer’s and thin people shouldn’t.
Spoonmanners2 t1_j8ppwl1 wrote
With that said, it doesn’t perfectly align… but it jives with this from November where intermittent fasting was protective of Alzheimer’s in mice. https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/zm1qje/a_study_on_mice_suggests_that_intermittent/
SackFlapJack t1_j8rgn72 wrote
i didnt take that article as meaning you have to be overweight to be at risk.
Fappinonabiscuit t1_j8qmwyx wrote
Is there any studies on bipolar disorder and Alzheimer’s? The way they describe how this mechanism works, it really sounds like what I do when I’m not on keto. I have always felt I have more impulse control when in ketosis.
If this study has some merit I wonder if there’s some correlation between bipolar and Alzheimer’s which could explain the hereditary nature as bipolar is universally accepted as genetic. Also crazy to think all of these could be metabolic disorders.
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onyerbikedude t1_j8w9log wrote
There could be a correlation between bipolar and alzheimers although my gut feel is that am sceptical of this. I have bipolar, had it for 26 years (developed it at 25 yrs old). I have always had a somewhat poor short term memory but I considered this was because I am usually thinking about several 'higher' topics rather than concentrating on the minutae of day to day functions. There has been demonstrated an association between abdentmindedness and high intelligence. And bipolar people are often highly intelligent. ..
AnonyJustAName t1_j939njo wrote
Check out the work of Dr. Chris Palmer. He has been doing a lot of interviews re: his new book Brain Energy.
Both bipolar and Alzheimer's have been linked to insulin resistance, along with diabetes, NAFLD, PCOS or ED in men, mood disorders, heart disease, some cancers and Alzheimer's. Dr. Ben Bikman's book Why We Get Sick is excellent at laying out the common underpinnings.
Fappinonabiscuit t1_j93nlwv wrote
I’ve not heard of him thanks for the suggestion I’ll pick that up tonight!
Oxyy30 t1_j8nqwwt wrote
Absolutely, then they add salt to balance out the sweetness.
CodeWizardCS t1_j8o6zye wrote
Fructose as in what's in fruit.
34ducks t1_j8ou4a3 wrote
And 50% content of table sugar
pointlessvoice t1_j8ppg3j wrote
> In fact, the researchers found the entire foraging response was set in motion by the metabolism of fructose whether it was eaten or produced in the body.
This explains why i stand and stare the the open fridge after eating my less than healthy dinner.
Ixneigh t1_j8po3fw wrote
They knew early on that HFCS makes you want to eat more.
decayexists t1_j8pzbo0 wrote
What’s the implication here for eating fruit then? Cause I eat tons of fruit. Slightly worrying
Darkhorseman81 t1_j8q1ljn wrote
Fruit has Fibres and other chemicals that counteract the effects, to some extent. For example, Inositol is an Insulin mimetic.
It's mainly super concentrated Sugars and Fructose.
bigtimephonk t1_j8rye3f wrote
Keep eating fruit.
Darkhorseman81 t1_j8pxsyw wrote
Yes. They have always added it to food to make us eat more.
Uric acid is also an signalling molecule that tells us to pack on fat for winter. It activates the ARYL Hydrocarbon receptor, which blocks the function of the circadian genes that regulate metabolism.
Its how Bears and Squirrels pack on fat and prepare to hibernate.
Certain substances like Fructose trap us in a constant pre torpor like state. The government and food industries have known this since 1908-1936.
I've taken to calling the modern obesity epidemic GMMD. Government Mandated Metabolic Disorder.
It should really take off in the academic journals.
takingastep t1_j8py41t wrote
Does it have to be "government-mandated" as opposed to "corporate-mandated"? 'Cause I feel like regulatory capture by big corporations is closer to the root of the problem than any government regulations. Then again, I suppose that's not a question for this sub.
Darkhorseman81 t1_j8pyadv wrote
It's a bit of both. I say government Mandated because all their food pyramids and diet advice are a recipe for diabetes, and they are well aware of this.
takingastep t1_j8pyly1 wrote
I see. I'd suggest that it's more corporate-mandated, because were it not for the undue influence of corporations in government, the government might have put out more sensible diet advice that led to healthier outcomes. I'm aware that that's just speculation.
Darkhorseman81 t1_j8q08gk wrote
Wait until I tell you the wonderful story of the Saturated Fatty Acid Palmitate. How it dysregulates Glucagen Like Peptides.
You see those expensive new diabetes drugs? All they do us switch back on GLP-1; which Palmitate, in high concentrations, switches off.
Now get this, the Government tells us to eat low fat foods to lose weight. But, low fat foods aren't a food group anymore because they cannot carry fat soluble vitamins.
How do they address this? They add Palm Oil or Palmitate as a carrier of fat soluble vitamins in low fat food and spreads like margarine. Especially those 'Cholestrol lowering' margarines (don't get me started on the lies around cholestrol)
They tell us to eat low fat foods to lose weight, and give us a nice big helping of metabolic disorder along with them. Chemically induced diabetes.
Like Cheshire Cats, the last thing you see are the Narcissistic smirks of Lobbyists disappearing into the shadows behind the politicians behind these regulatory guidelines.
P.S the sellers of Low Fat Palmitate Rich food have heavy investments in Insulin and Diabetes drug companies.
They know precisely what they are doing.
twoisnumberone t1_j8q6s4e wrote
But the government does not tell us to eat low-fat foods? It tells us to eat healthy foods, which include nuts, avocados, olives, and other high-fat plant nutrients…
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TequillaShotz t1_j8qcy7u wrote
> If I'm understanding that correctly, I'd think this would count as a motive for various food industries to intentionally use excessive fructose in various food products to manipulate people to buy excess food/drink against their will/better judgment. It would also probably count as evidence of harm caused by including it in food/drink products. One would need harder evidence to prove that they deliberately and knowingly did so, though.
80% of packaged foods (in some mini-markets, it's closer to 100%) have added fructose. They are not adding it accidentally. They're adding it because they know it increases sales.
Waterrat t1_j8opirb wrote
I believe it's deliberate. Notice how 85% of food products have sugar in them. Watch Dr. Robert Lustigs videos.
Swindled: From Poison Sweets to Counterfeit Coffee—The Dark History of the Food Cheats
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TinyCatCrafts t1_j8qt57o wrote
I can't digest fructose. American food is already a landmine.
solinaceae t1_j8r4jpw wrote
Fructose doesn’t also stimulate the satiety hormones unless it gets converted into glucose first, which only a portion of it does. So you’re hungrier on a fructose diet than a glucose diet.
And a metabolic pathway to process it in the liver can lead to fatty liver disease.
But let’s put it in all our food and drinks.
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