Submitted by MistWeaver80 t3_1162nfn in science
It's ecocide and genocide.
It's homicide and suicide.
Planetary omnicide.
I sang this thread to the tune of "We didn't start the fire".
In time the entire planet will exist to support just one species. We'll end up killing off most of our only companions on possibly the only inhabitable planet for complex life in the galaxy. And most people seem just fine with that.
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It's insanity. I don't even click on stories like this because I only feel helpless and depressed.
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For what purpose, though? Don't we have enough farms? Why not invest in ecotourism, Brazil?
sends an angry gaze at capitalism
While Brazil bears responsibility, let's not forget that what is mined or produced there is for global supply chains. So fostering due diligence in supply chains, regulations, etc should be done by the recipient countries as well.
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While I agree with the sentiment, it is mostly not poor people who are doing this. Sure, often they are used as pawns to start the clearing, but some big miners and landowners, as well as companies, are the ones profiting.
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> When you have few opportunities a job is a job even if long tern that job ends up being bad for you and your family. You still do what you have to.
True but irrelevant. The poor, shirtless peasants of Brazil do not have access to the bulldozers and chainsaws necessary to cut down the Amazon, the massive trucks required to drag out trees, the markets to sell them in, nor the mercenaries needed to murder the indigenous people who live there.
The rape of the Amazon is being driven by Brazil's rapacious oligarch scum. The poor they employ to do some of the dirty work are mere pawns.
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> Better policing and policy is great and all but if poor people are still poor left with no other way to better themselves what else do you expect is going to happen? With no other option people will exploit local natural resources to better themselves.
You're thinking like a WEIRDo - western, educated, industrialized, rich and democratic.
Almost all of the inhabitants of the Amazon are uncontacted or barely contacted indigenous peoples who don't share a single one of your values or aspirations. They largely live today as their ancestors lived in the stone age and they are quite content to do so. This means they live in small bands of no more than a couple hundred, build transitory shelters that they use for no more than a year or two, hunt and gather for food, and then move on to greener forest. The damage they cause to the environment self-heals in a couple years, and so their lifestyle is sustainable.
They do not premise their lives on infinite growth and accumulation, the core requirements of capitalism. They do not exploit resources more than is necessary to live their lives.
The Amazon needs nothing more to thrive than to be left alone by Brazilians and other western neighbors.
This comment is classist
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Yeah, no. Warmer temperatures lead to increased rainfall, not less, which is why you are seeing deserts retreating, around the world. COLDER temperatures would lead to the savannization of many forests.
With the world’s population over 8 billion and still climbing, we have no chance at fixing this. Zero.
The decision not to take overpopulation seriously in the 1970s doomed us as much as anything.
Overpopulation is hopelessness.
It's slowing. Education for women is key.
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Everything country with very large populations is stalling or already currently going down. What more do you want dude?
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It's turning around in a generation, and carbon sequesteration will be needed on a large scale, but it's literally doable.
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bluntologist1291 t1_j94stui wrote
This is a serious problem that is not taken seriously enough