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Cleistheknees t1_jbyzv12 wrote

Every zealot thinks history will eventually yield to their zealotry.

There are hundreds of thousands of animal species which consume other animals, in ways drastically more horrific than even the worst factory farming setup. Are those more immoral than livestock? They certainly die much more prolonged, painful, and stressful deaths. They’re often infants and juveniles as well.


Ill_Marsupial8785 t1_jbz2kdo wrote

Our morality shouldn't be based off of what happens in nature. We are not wild animals and can act on our moral agency and logic rather than needlessly harming animals when we sony have to.

If being anti animal abuse is zealous, consider me a zealot. What's that make you?


Cleistheknees t1_jbz7m32 wrote

Answer the question: would the world be better if animals didn’t consume other animals?

> Our morality shouldn’t be based off of what happens in nature.

Unless you believe in magic or other supernatural forces, everything comes from nature. There is nowhere else for things to come from.