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M00n_Slippers t1_jech96e wrote

Most of the democratic party would actually like to do something about it, but unfortunately Republicans are in charge and a couple of Democrats are just corporate stooges and will vote for whoever pays them the most, such as Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sinema. People are like, "Democrats had the majority in the House before, why didn't they do anything then?" Because it was a very slim majority, and some of those democrats were corporate trash, even if they ran as Democrats. I wouldn't describe the whole party like this, but even just 2 or 3 was enough to stop so much stuff going through. I don't consider myself a democrat. Until a few years ago I had voted for republicans just as often as democrats, but you can't be wishy washy about this and sit on the fence and say 'they are both bad' because that attitude just make it worse and muddies the waters. That's what the Republicans count on. You've got to choose a side. Fence sitting doesn't fix anything.


Brewcrew828 t1_jecmcg0 wrote

I don't have to choose a side of the fence to sit on.

The waters are already muddied. Neither party would bring anything of substance to this country even if they had a majority, as I have already said.

There are only two reasons I would vote. One is to protect my ability to defend myself, my friends, and family. The other is to cut down the federal government and return more power to the states. I've held those beliefs since high school 8 years ago. I voted for Trump his first term and the only reason I did it was for the Supreme Court nominations. The minute we get a liberal Supreme Court is the minute my first issue becomes crippled by the opinions of people who know nothing about my way of life or the people who live in my area.

I vote when my interests are at risk.

You said that the Democrats want to change this country? How EXACTLY do they want to do that? So lets say they address the issues that I've outlined. What else comes along with that? My ability to defend myself will be stripped from me. Millions of people will be paintbrushed by the Democrats never ending need to push everything through at a federal level spitting in the face of the founding fathers and directly neglecting the 10th amendment. Those are only the things that I care about. You can ask someone who actually supports Republicans for more, and yes, their opinion is still valid because they live in this country too, and chances are they don't live in your state. You already know the issues with the Republicans, I don't need to point that out to you.

To choose either is to punish this country. I'll have no part in it. I'd rather have status que than see the hell hole either side would create.


M00n_Slippers t1_jectoo2 wrote

Wow, okay. I see you've clearly chosen the Republican side. You can pretend you're a fence sitter but you're on the side of guns, book bans, anti-women and lgbt rights, and so-called 'states rights' AKA the ability to be racist and homophobic without anyone to stop you. You made yourself out to be moderate but you're clearly not, my mistake.


Brewcrew828 t1_jecvvxr wrote

You clearly haven't read anything I've said.

Not everyone who doesn't agree with you is for everything you're against.

I told you that I didn't need to tell you the problems with the Republican party. You have stated all the things wrong with the Republican party.

Wanting to protect myself from having my second amendment rights from being infringed and wanting to be protected from the Federal government under the 10th amendment IN ALL APPLICABLE CASES doesn't make me a Republican supporter.

I'm a Libertarian with extra steps.

The people need to be able to be accurately represented. People in California live and believe differently than in Texas and the only way this Country functions is when both are left to represent themselves with what is left to them under the 10th.

That doesn't mean I'm supporting any of the things you are talking about and I would never cast a vote towards any of that. I will, however, still respect those states' decisions with how they want to be represented in their own state.

It's none of my business what some other people in another state think, believe, or how they vote. Just like I think it's none of my business what someone does in their bedroom with whoever they choose. That doesn't mean they can't think differently and to force them into submission is un-American.