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DigitalSteven1 t1_ir41v1k wrote

>The heathiest people eat meat occasionally amd on holidays

Got a source for this out of the ass statistic that is actually worth reading?

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healthmadesimple t1_ir4a215 wrote

Not OP, but I read Blue Zones which had to do with centireans and longevity. There were some examples but keep in mind there are so many other reasons too like exercise and exceptions to the rules.

If you look at countries that have the best health there is no indicators that they are on plant based diets.

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HungerMadra t1_ir4apyr wrote

Also I read an interesting observation that all the blue zones have universal Healthcare that focus on preventative care. While diet may be important, so is making sure everyone gets regular doctor visits.

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healthmadesimple t1_ir4d0r9 wrote

Excercise, great social health and community, and loweric caloric intake.

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Corrupted_G_nome t1_ir55mnd wrote

Sure the US department of health. The Heart and Stroke foundation. The new Canadian food guide. The WHO recommends it too.

So its common knowledge and generally accepted and provable via science. The reason is simple, trans fats and salts. People simply eat far too much and get sick.

Blue zones were discovered through study so that is its own datum.

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healthmadesimple t1_ir6dmdj wrote

Isn’t almost trans fat consumption from hydrogenated vegetable oils and some margarines which are plant based and not meat based?

Doesn’t ruminant trans fats (from dairy) have less health risk than trans fats from hydrogenated vegetable oil and margarine?

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Corrupted_G_nome t1_ir6feif wrote

Nope, if it returns to solid at room temperature its semi solid inside you and can lead to health issues over a long term. Trans fats do resolidify.

People seem to think animals have some magical quality that makes them different. The cow got its fats (and proteins) from plants. Its made of the same stuff as you or I and we basically synthesize the same nutrients. Other than insoluble fiber that ruminants have a yeast ally to break down your building blocks and its building nlocks are made of the same stuff.

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healthmadesimple t1_ir6jtes wrote

The reason why vegetable trans fat is called “artificial trans fat” is because it’s not naturally occurring in plants

Artificial trans fats (or trans fatty acids) are created in an industrial process that adds hydrogen to liquid vegetable oils to make them more solid.

You may be right, functionally similar to natural ruminant trans fat

Except that foods containing ruminant trans fat has small amount while processed foods containing partially hydrogenated vegetable oils has a lot more.

Tl;dr: most of the trans fat consumption in the US is from plants not from meat due to high consumption of highly processed foods.

The reason? Crops like soy, corn and canola are highly subsidized and are used in a lot of food processing

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Corrupted_G_nome t1_ir6nvuk wrote

Yeah its mostly processed foods. That McD's apple.pie has something like 2000x the daily recommended intake. Its super gross XD

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