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rickymourke82 t1_itphodw wrote

Seems like a better post for r/commonsense. Not much scientific discussion to be had about quantifying common knowledge. I guess it does help confirm that broad based lockdowns as public policy are counterintuitive and most likely do more harm to overall public health than good.

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is0ph t1_itpjluj wrote

It’s not difficult to achieve a high level of physical activity (150mn + per week) while locked down.

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rickymourke82 t1_itpnjzw wrote

People find it difficult to remain physically active under normal circumstances. Add in a pandemic where we were being made to think we could hide from a virus and door dash our way to being an even more unhealthy society, and I’d disagree with your take. We made it extremely hard on people in dense urban populations to do anything but rot in their own misery and create habits far worse than what the virus would have been on them (statistically speaking).

Edit: typo

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thejml2000 t1_itpo78g wrote

Lockdowns actually helped prevent spread quite a bit.. when people actually did them. If everyone actually did it, it would have greatly reduced the impact of Covid, but people can’t follow directions or be bothered to give a crap about their neighbors and elderly.

They also don’t mean you don’t workout. I know I did a lot of jogging, calisthenics and Ring Fit during lockdown. Working from home during that period gave me lots of extra free time to stay in shape.

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Ok_Letter_9284 t1_itpq57z wrote

This comment is so dumb. You believe fewer ppl would die if the virus spreads SLOWER??

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thejml2000 t1_itq0ci6 wrote

Um, I hope you just forgot there “/s”, because that’s kinda common sense and well proven. You slow the spread and you don’t overwhelm the Health care system.

Remember when hospitals were out of beds and running low on oxygen? That wouldn’t have been a problem if it spread slower.

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Ok_Letter_9284 t1_itq0u1m wrote

Hospitals get overwhelmed during flu season. It happens all the time even when there’s no pandemic. Also, are you claiming that a significant amount of deaths from covid were caused by inaccessible hospitals?! Because that’s patently false.

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thejml2000 t1_itq1qjp wrote

This is just one of many reports/stories about it.

It’s really not something that’s up for debate, it happened quite a bit.

Also, brining up hospitals getting overwhelmed during flu season is not helping your point. Anytime someone who needs care can’t get it you don’t get good results… if not getting care didn’t have an impact, then the people didn’t really need the care in the first place.

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Ok_Letter_9284 t1_itq2azj wrote

The article is talking about ppl dying from socioeconomic issues and “accessibility” to healthcare. Not that the hospitals were too full.

I have a heart condition. I go to the hospital a lot. At no point during the pandemic was it too crowded (Cleveland, OH). Anecdotal, true, but heres something that’s not.

If hospital fullness were a concern, then lockdowns would be LOCAL based on current beds available. Not case count and not state or county wide.

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brainburger t1_itqu5sa wrote

Just everybody seems to be jumping to this conclusion. Is it common sense though?

Why should exercise affect the value of the vaccine? It affects the risk of covid, we know that. That's a different question though.

I could imagine the paper concluding that exercise affects covid, and that vaccinations affect Covid, but that exercise does not affect the vaccine's effect on covid. The vaccine acts directly on the immune system. It could easily be the same without the exercise.

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