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zbbrox t1_irz10ej wrote

Reply to comment by Veythrice in In the US, many eligible voters have to not only register to vote, but re-register to vote. Automatic voter re-registration – which targets those already registered rather than all eligible nonregistrants – would on its own increase turnout in the US by 5.8 percentage points. by smurfyjenkins

>All americans are issued paper documents automatically at birth and ID in many states with voter laws count for anything including bank statements and utility bills.

1: Yes, at birth. How many adults still have those things lying around? I know I've needed new copies before. This is an obvious financial barrier you're pretending doesn't exist because it suits you.

2: In many states, sure, but not all of them, you're just hand-waving things away based on what might happen in an ideal situation.

3: Regardless of any of this, there is absolutely no reason not to pair the ID requirement with automatic registration except malicious opposition to voting rights.

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>Do not misrepresent the source. The 0.31% is the most extreme rendition of the people who have been shown to vote without IDs in states that require it.

That's... exactly what I said. I said that it found rates between 0.1% and 0.31%. Hence 0.31% being the highest. It was you that misrepresented the studies by claiming they found no impact!

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kalasea2001 t1_irz5khf wrote

It's all a moot point anyway because voter fraud practically doesn't exist and the only extremely rare cases they find are Repubs who have ID but choose to try to cheat.

No real problem = no need to make new laws

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Veythrice t1_irzcrms wrote

Near totality of american adults have those documents. They are integral parts of being an adult, signing up for credit cards, tax payments, product purchases, renting, venue admissions etc.

That is not an ideal cooked up scenario, its the working law in majority of states. Majority of Americans use these methods on a daily basis.

Please dont read abstracts then come to your own conclusions. The studies including yours literally says so. The effect is null. Are you currently now arguing also against your own link? Or you will just keep picking and choosing paragraphs to ignore?

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