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TaserLord t1_ivbhs60 wrote

I'd love to see this research broadened - is this specific to Facebook, or do other platforms have the same tendencies? Does the strength of this effect vary with platform?


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Maktesh t1_ivdl5vc wrote

I'd also be curious if this pertains to the types of crimes.

Certain types of crimes are just more "exciting." (e.g. CCTV footage of Walmart shenanigans.) I wouldn't be surprised if the social media sharing has to do with how unfamiliar or bizarre a certain event is to the reposter.


Yes_hes_that_guy t1_ivdxvn7 wrote

It’s every type of crime except auto thefts.


Diamondsfullofclubs t1_ive11rb wrote

Yes, but what the user above you is saying is that maybe black people disproportionately commit newsworthy crimes.

Only clarifying what is obviously speculation.


Strazdas1 t1_ivenuej wrote

Theres also he confidentiallity issue. They will not share fottage of something that could be considered a breach of the persons data, so for example financial crimes are pretty much nonexistant on such pages.


Yes_hes_that_guy t1_ivdy8z6 wrote

This isn’t about the platform itself. It’s about the departments’ choices of which arrests to report on publicly. This study does focus on Facebook because it’s the most popular platform, making the dataset larger, but it isn’t about algorithms like I initially assumed before reading the study.


howelftw t1_ivfkgk6 wrote

Yes I agree with you it's not about the platform itself it's about the departments of choices.

The algorithm of these platforms shows the people what they want to see and the people nowadays are more interested in discrimination and racial abuse.


ClashCoyote t1_ivbinvk wrote

If guess that the trends are the same, but it would be nice to see this sort of research broadened.


shitposts_over_9000 t1_iveogs3 wrote

Community moderation 101:

Topics that directly affect the community will attract more attention by said community.

Topics that contain tropes will perform better than ones that do not.

Outrage & shock will outperform Tropes.

Taken in order:

Random crimes like car break ins get discussed as a warning to others, then celebrated when the perpetrator is finally caught far more than crimes that don't directly effect people on platforms like Facebook but far less on platforms like Twitter. Demographically those crimes are almost never evenly distributed in the first place. Where I live car break ins are 27yr old white junkies on average, across town not so much.

Who discusses crime online also varies by demographic and it mostly tends to be the poor and the upper middle class when a crime is committed somewhere unexpected.

The tropes kind of write themselves these days. Any time you see security video of a gas station robbery the ones where the assailant doesn't know how to hold the gun properly will always outperform one that is less colorful. Bonus points if they obviously have more gold jewellery than the cash value of the take from the robbery.

Outage and shock has also become a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts as well. In areas with very low case close rates it is much easier for things like the assaults on elderly Asians to happen because it is unlikely anyone will ever be punished. It also means that it is a good bet that intimidating or eliminating a witness gives better chances of not being caught by the cops. Again, demographics of who is doing this vary from place to place a little, but less than in the previous example because serious gangs are usually a prerequisite and those tend to have very little ethnic diversity.

Which platforms have more or less of this depends greatly in what the platform is primarily used for.

Twitter is for arguing politics and complaining to the social media managers of large corporations so it sees less than Facebook which is more general, but not as much as something like nextdoor which has a very local focus.

Places like Reddit are also influencing this as well. When popular sites start issuing ban warnings and perform admin removals over links to government issued crime statistics it motivates people to post individual examples as news to that platform and creates Streisand effect additional discussions of said statistics and the platform's political motivation in suppressing them.

Tl; Dr the type of platform affects the level of attention & the people most likely to discuss crime they were the victim of are far from evenly distributed so neither are the perpetrators. The type and details of the crime heavily affect it's likelihood to be discussed as well.


PDAP-JoshChamberlain t1_ivfusrc wrote

I work at an org which locates police data for consumption by researchers / journalists. We've been asked to help compare press releases to underlying data for similar's wild how many departments use facebook as their website!


Future_Ad_2590 t1_ivdzbep wrote

All ML based companies suffer from the same bias - they by showing people information they want. The platform learns users have racial bias, then gives them what they want.


kysiseen t1_ivgl8cz wrote

Yes I agree with you that all the ML based companies suffer from the same bias.

They are the one who promote the racism and other kind of discrimination and after that they are the ones who reports to these kind of things first and wants to gather more and more spotlight.