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Meatrition OP t1_iyk2r1p wrote

I don't know if I'd say it's increasingly captured, it's more increasingly discovered to be captured. We've had a hundred years of this abuse already, just starting to come to light.


TransposingJons t1_iykotiv wrote

"CAMEL....The Cigarette 9 Out of 10 Doctors Choose!"


JabberJawocky t1_iymlqjh wrote

You an thank Sigmund Freuds nephew for that type of advertising.


Smooth_Imagination t1_iyk492o wrote

I think there was more publically funded science in the past though. I assume more of the fraction of scientists work in private organisations.


Snuggoth t1_iyl345d wrote

Sure, but that's just the problem. It's not been the case for a lot longer than you'd think. Networking works in more ways than just career building.


cannondave t1_iylh0j9 wrote

Big money are even bigger now, relatively and absolutely, than x decades ago. If you have a revenue of $100 million it might be profitable to influnce some politics, but if you have $22 bn like some large companies such as Pfizer, it's profitable to even gain 5% positive sentiment for a single new product, even if you have to pay $10 m to influence social media such as Reddit, Twitter, and another $100 m to lobby FDA and it's counterparts, especially EU and FDA. It would be profitable for sure, to some extent. If they do it, who knows. Maybe they are ethical and allows us to discuss freely and openly about their products pros and cons, without intercepting. Would you? If you had a button to press, generate $1 bn by influencing social media? If you wouldn't, and you worked at marketing at a large corporation, do you think you would be replaced by someone who would? Interesting thoughts.


hopelesscaribou t1_iylh9k4 wrote

Coca Cola Net Worth is $282 Billion in 2022.


aBoyandHisVacuum t1_iyo3pg4 wrote

Whaaaaaatttt!!!! Drinks coke. Jk thats unreal. Thats ATT money.


hopelesscaribou t1_iyo4394 wrote

Pshht! AT&T is chump change compared to Coke.

As of 2022, AT&T was ranked 13th on the Fortune 500 rankings of the largest United States corporations, with revenues of $168.8 billion.


aBoyandHisVacuum t1_iyo4c6e wrote

Damn your quick! Does that include all its subsidaries? I know it broke up a few times for regs. But lets say its 3 times that? Is a guess


Kipzi t1_iylijzs wrote

Remember that study published in a bunch of higher tier academic journals about chocolate making you lose weight? The guy made up a fake name and put it in just to show it would be published knowing full well it was junk science.

Also the greivance studies. They published mein kempf using feminist speech and that was accepted too. They also published something about a dog park, dildos and toxic masculinity.

I never took social sciences the same.


C2h6o4Me t1_iylv1a8 wrote

It's not "just starting to come to light", either. Oil, tobacco, food and pharma companies were well known to have been practicing this in the 90's (I can't speak to before that, because I was a child in the 90s, yet still had a basic level of awareness), well before the Internet was as ubiquitous as it is today. The problem is the industries that practice it generally have a captive audience in one form or another, or the people that purchase their products either don't care or can't be bothered with the politics or ethics of the companies they buy their goods from.


TranscendingTourist t1_iyn68nk wrote

It’s amazing how much of this stuff has been in plain view for decades and people just choose to ignore it. No wonder the world is in the state it’s in


AndrewSonOfBill t1_iyn67nr wrote

I recommend the book Merchants of Doubt. Really documents the perversion of public scientific information for profit.