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Songmuddywater t1_izedm46 wrote

Now that you will be have been caught you're just playing word games instead of apologizing. How sad.

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Cypher1492 t1_izeeso0 wrote

Word games? I made the edit before you even posted your response. Perhaps if you had read the link you provided more thoroughly you would have noticed the link to the NIH page regarding CLD.

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Songmuddywater t1_izeg91h wrote

And yet you are still climbing that someone who has untreated long-term Lyme disease is suffering from a mental problem and doesn't need antibiotics. Your posts still up. With any luck you will live to have to deal with doctors as they don't listen to you and treat you like crap when you try to explain real problems you are having. Karma usually finds a way to bite.

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Cypher1492 t1_izegz1x wrote

And you continue to put words in my mouth and deny the serious nature of mental illness. If you read the NIH page I linked you will see that there is no evidence that prolonged treatment with antibiotics is helpful when treating PTLD or CLD and that it may actually be harmful to patients.

Again, mental illness is real illness. Being diagnosed with a mental illness is not a doctor "treating you like crap" or an implication that your issues are imaginary.

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Songmuddywater t1_izfb37x wrote

So according to you even though it is acknowledged by the CDC and other health organizations that such a condition exists. Because we don't have perfect treatment for it, we must treat everyone suffering from it as if they are mentally ill.

You now have no right to make fun of anyone in the 1980s who treated people with AIDS badly. Because you have the same mindset.

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Cypher1492 t1_izfff0q wrote

From the CDC page you linked, under the "FAQ" section (emphasis mine):

> What is "chronic Lyme disease"?

>>Lyme disease is caused by infection with the bacterium Borrelia burgdorferi. Although most cases of Lyme disease can be cured with a 2- to 4-week course of oral antibiotics, patients can sometimes have symptoms of pain, fatigue, or difficulty thinking that last for more than 6 months after they finish treatment. This condition is called ”Post-Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome” (PTLDS). The term “chronic Lyme disease” (CLD) is also sometimes used; however, this term has been used to describe a wide variety of different conditions and therefore can be confusing. Because of the confusion in how the term CLD is employed, experts do not support its use (Feder et al.,2007 www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra072023). For more information, see the National Institutes of Health — “Chronic Lyme Disease”.

So it is not, however much you try to claim it, acknowledged by the CDC.

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Songmuddywater t1_izfhwka wrote

So you admit that it's an issue. You admit the experts know about it and admit that people can be long term suffers of Lyme. You admit that professionals including the CDC and medical doctors use the term chronic fine as well as other words to describe the syndrome.

But you still think that women who have long-term symptoms of Lyme disease or mentally ill and don't deserve to be treated medically. Because they are women they should never have symptoms listen to by a medical professional. They should always assume that when a woman claims pain that it's in her head.

Wow! This is a level of sexism I haven't encountered in a long time. Even the groups who hate women don't go this far.

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Cypher1492 t1_izfndge wrote

Please read what I actually said.

> mentally ill and don't deserve to be treated medically

You keep insisting that mental illness is somehow "not real" and isn't treated medically which is simply not true. Mental illness is medical illness.

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