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FiestaBeans t1_izfinzl wrote

It's a joke at this point: "Well, pretty sure I just sacrificed our firstborn child, but we're all set up with cable now, babe."

These TOS should be illegal. It's impossible to read, a great deal of it seems legally dubious, and it's outrageous that I should be asked to give up my basic rights as a consumer in order to use a service that is required for my participation in society. In my state, without Internet, it's difficult to update voter registration, get a driver's license, register for school, etc.

And yet, the companies we have to sign up with to get Internet can demand pretty much any contract they want.

I'm glad someone is studying the implications and I hope it is reflected in future public policy.

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TorsionDifferential t1_izfkq9h wrote

Those TOS are often unenforceable. Company doesn't lose anything by 'making' you read and agree to one, so what the hell.

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FiestaBeans t1_izjgou3 wrote

The company won't win a lawsuit most likely, but for the vast majority of these, the people on the other end do not have the resources to bring it to court or to fight it.

And they can use the TOS to harass the user into not leaving the contract, or to levy fines or fess which the user doesn't have resources to fight in court.

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KingfisherDays t1_izfnu6l wrote

They are illegal in the sense that courts won't enforce them. So while we should be careful, there no need to worry too much about them imo. Even things like mandatory arbitration gets regulated, though it varies by state.

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Gorstag t1_izh53t4 wrote

Considering I'm probably around half the age of the person in the picture and I read "Kentucky" instead of Kidney. I was less surprised by Kentucky.

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oldastheriver t1_izg4oke wrote

TOS and service agreements are not considered to be a binding contract in the many countries that have anti-scam laws. This is just one reason why.

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TorsionDifferential t1_izfhprn wrote

I mean, I got a refrigerator drawer of them that I'm not using, and I don't have room for my yogurt cups, so, sure. I'll mail them a kidney.

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gilareefer t1_izgn39q wrote

I bet the people that write those things don't even read them

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BstintheWst t1_izg2i3u wrote

That term is not enforceable

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TROGDOR_BURN_VILLAGE t1_izgmaco wrote

I remember the TOS or Cheat Engine asking for my first born or something like that.

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Still_Difference5461 t1_izhsdyt wrote

Reading all the agreements would take away more time from my life than losing a kidney

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