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chrisdh79 OP t1_izjq567 wrote

From the article: New research seeks to understand what interventions may improve some of the destructive symptoms of narcissism. Researchers from the University of Maastricht investigated the consequences of exercises to induce two different types of compassion, self-compassion and compassion for others. Their findings indicate targeted interventions inducing feelings of compassion may work for some with grandiose or vulnerable narcissistic traits.

Grandiose and vulnerable narcissism are a pair of traits that result in behaviors that are damaging to the individual and those around them. Grandiose narcissism refers to a set of behaviors that can be characterized by arrogance, superiority and exploitation of others. Vulnerable narcissism is evident when individuals are extremely sensitive to judgment, lack self-esteem and are neurotic.

Those with the grandiose trait are likely to be unnecessarily competitive, denigrating, and manipulative in relationships with others. Those in relationship with people who experience vulnerable narcissism may deal with a person who plays the victim, is manipulative and lashes out emotionally or physically. Both grandiose and vulnerable narcissism are at greater risk for self-harming behavior.

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fitness_life_journey t1_izjy9kk wrote

>The first is the self-compassionate mindset induction. [...] participants were asked to think about a situation that is currently difficult or painful for the[m]. They were asked to write about this even focusing on being mindful, kind and recognizing examples of common humanity.

>The other [was to] illicit feelings of compassion for others. Both of these assessments were writing prompts and asked participants to write at least 200 words.

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dude-O-rama t1_izk12yc wrote

I wonder how common narcissist that have both both traits are.

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Darkstar_k t1_izju1n6 wrote

Now how are earth do we get narcissists into dzogchen?

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wweber1 t1_izjzimm wrote

What's that?

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tornpentacle t1_izk1pxy wrote

A school of Tibetan Buddhism.

It's also entirely off-topic, and the author of the comment should remove it since it has very little to do with the research at hand.

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Beginning_Train_892 t1_izrfcx9 wrote

I notice that you didn’t mention anything about them being aware of their behavior and needing to take responsibility for it. Sure they may be at risk for self-harm, however i pose this question: How much compassion does one need to give before they themselves are at risk of self-harm or worse due to what you described being a risk of being around people with these types of disorder? If we aren’t holding them accountable, what good does any of what you said do anyone other than people knowing enough to stay away from them? I’m looking forward to a reply.

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LilSpermCould t1_izk0z8q wrote

Interesting, but I would have assumed these kinds of exercises were already common when a therapist is engaging in sessions with a narcissist?

From my experiences, whatever compassion I am shown by the person in my life, who I believe struggles with NPD, it is always self-serving. This tiny write up doesn't seem to address this aspect.

The core wound of the person I have to deal with seems to be related to feelings of self worth. At times when I took these interactions as genuine change it always came back to bite me.

Currently I'm experiencing a different side of this person's compassion. It's odd, I don't trust it. However I truly do hope they're on the path to fixing themselves. Everything I've read and been told by experts is that it is extremely difficult to get narcissists to change.

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Devadander t1_izjxg62 wrote

Narcissism is thinking more highly of yourself than others. Compassion / empathy is thinking of others before yourself. No surprise

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wweber1 t1_izk0ri4 wrote

> Dr Kostas Papageorgiou, from Queen's University Belfast, says research shows that narcissists are often socially successful and undeterred by rejection and their craving for attention can make them "charming" and highly motivated.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/education-44601198

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SolsticeSon t1_izk8x61 wrote

Caring about others defeats self absorption… what a concept.

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stockjonesmackboy t1_izoay8x wrote

Maybe a simple concept intellectually but self compassion and compassion for others is very nuanced and can come along with many things like empathy, validation, self-care, list goes on. Many people struggle with these things which can be very distressing for people and their relationships.

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spydersens t1_izknhab wrote

Tbh give anything a narcissist wants and things will go better.

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buttcheeksmcgee47 t1_izkvlgl wrote

This is the real answer. They’re nicer to be around when things are going their way and they make everyone miserable when things aren’t going their way.

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Obi2 t1_izm83ym wrote

Uhh maybe if you only see them once in a while but if you are in a relationship w them, close friend, boss, etc then you’ll always lose. The only way to win is to walk away and delete every form of contact w them.

Lucky for me I had a child w one. I’ve got stories for days that would blow your mind.

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MLJ9999 t1_izjt42x wrote

What came to mind -

"Sympathy for the Devil" - Rolling Stones, 1968

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WonderFluffen t1_izk6or8 wrote

I'm not fond of the effects of NPD, but let's not compare them to devils.

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MLJ9999 t1_izkh6e4 wrote

Sorry. You're right.

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WonderFluffen t1_izkjy9a wrote

Thanks for being chill. I never expect calm comment responses back.

I hope you have a beautiful day!

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