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itguy18 t1_j1663wr wrote

It amazes me that this is the same thing that keeps being said over and over since the very beginning and everybody's shocked.

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Ralfpker t1_j16a4qh wrote

Right... you mean to tell me that all the negative health effects of covid are exacerbated by the negative health effects someone has attained by being overweight/unhealthy?!?! No freaking way...

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monjorob t1_j17cmyv wrote

It’s just kind of crazy to me that this caused absolutely zero public discussion about healthy activities. Why not have the president come out and tell the whole US to get active for 30 min a day.

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Don_Ford t1_j17oxcf wrote

Because it's not actually true... hypertension and inflammation are way worse for COVID

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uninstallIE t1_j17tl3c wrote

What part is not true? Are you disagreeing that physical activity reduces the odds of developing severe or lethal covid by very large amounts?

Additionally, do you know what helps to mitigate hypertension and systemic inflammation? Regular physical activity.

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robot2boy t1_j17t4e4 wrote

That may be true, but we are talking numbers here, and i am guessing that there are more people who don’t exercise than have hypertension and inflammation.

There are always exceptions.

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ucsdstaff t1_j176rry wrote

> by being overweight/unhealthy

The authors compared overweight people or people with hypertension between the exercise groups. The effect of exercise was just as dramatic for people affected by those conditions. Obviously, caveat for other conditions but the authors do discuss

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itguy18 t1_j16b3rm wrote

If you're unhealthy to start with getting sick is going to be worse off for you than somebody who is the same age but in good shape.

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jrob323 t1_j17hq2c wrote

They can also be exacerbated by your genes, no matter your physical conditioning. I'm overweight and 58 but I'm vaxxed and boosted, and I've had it according to tests but showed absolutely no symptoms, and I work with a guy who is in peak physical condition and is a search and rescue and water rescue member of the local responders (mountainous terrain in North Carolina - they teach their techniques all over the world) and he's had Covid twice, and can't smell anymore. He was out of work for two weeks the second time he had it. He refuses to get vaxxed because, you know.

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uninstallIE t1_j17tsn6 wrote

Indeed there are outliers to every rule. Some little kids and even babies can get cancer. Some people can smoke for 85 years and die at the ripe old age of 105 with no lung issues or anything of the sort.

But when we talk about public healthy we talk about likelihoods. It's extremely unlikely for someone to live to 105 having smoked for 8 decades. It's extremely unlikely for little kids and babies to get cancer. And it is much more likely for someone who is overweight and does not exercise to suffer severe or lethal covid than someone who is very fit.

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uninstallIE t1_j17ti35 wrote

Over and over, not just with respect to covid, but with respect to every single health condition we know about. Exercise even helps things that are neurological like epilepsy and Parkinson's to such an extraordinary degree that doctors can tell if you're lying about your activity levels based on how quickly the diseases progress.

Our bodies are not adapted to be static lumps. It destroys every system we have inside of us to remain inactive.

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blasphemingbanana t1_j1ahtjn wrote

Exercise brought me back from an unimaginable methamphetamine addiction. Be good to your body and it will pull itself straight eventually.

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watabadidea t1_j1912tm wrote

There were subs that would literally ban you for saying this too loudly under the justification that you were downplaying the dangers of the disease.

Young, healthy, active Americans were not dying from COVID by the tens of thousands. Saying this should never have been controversial.

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BlackSquirrel05 t1_j18z0t1 wrote

People don't like to be held accountable for their behaviors? (Or I suppose in this case lack of.)

This is shocking.

Queue Taylor: "It's me.

HI!

I'm the problem it's me!"

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Picolete t1_j19umfn wrote

You would get banned in 2020 for saying what this study says

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Internetolocutor t1_j18mkbe wrote

Can you show me someone who is shocked?

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watabadidea t1_j1937j4 wrote

Were you active on reddit in late 2020 and early 2021? Saying that covid didn't carry some massive mortality risk for young, healthy Americans would get you labeled as a COVID denier pretty quickly and put you at risk of catching a ban in plenty of subs.

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Internetolocutor t1_j19int7 wrote

I had a previous Reddit account before I switched phones I forgot my details and I saw people mention things like this but the difference is that they would often say the vaccine is much worse not just in kids but also young adults and the reality is that it wasn't true. The vaccine is only worse in young men for myocarditis, marginally. But it's much better for things like pericarditis, heart failure and survival outcomes. On balance the vaccine is better, but how much better obviously decreases as you got younger and healthier. But it always remained better.

If people just said that in young, healthy adults, it isn't quite as useful as in older ones therefore the vaccine is not as much of an imperative then that would be fine. The problem is that they usually went further than that and said therefore don't take the vaccine.

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IdaDuck t1_j198r0y wrote

Obesity is probably the second biggest risk factor after age. This is just restating that known fact.

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wtfisreality t1_j19fcwk wrote

So, disabled/chronically ill people got sicker than healthy people?

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Bogmanbob t1_j1alot8 wrote

Yep and I really doubt Covid mutates as easily to avoid a strong cardio system and robust immune systems like it has for the various vaccines. Don’t get me wrong they are good too and I keep up with them but they are my plan B behind a healthy and active lifestyle.

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jrob323 t1_j17i76h wrote

The best thing you can do is get vaccinated. You're not going to lift or vitamin your way past this. There's a lot of Joe Rogen fans out there who can still listen to him at the gym, but they can't smell anything anymore. Womp, womp.

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