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Great. Another survey study showing the same thing as every other study.

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Multiple studies replicate findings. >>"What's the point? We already knew this!"

One study proposes a finding. >>"Sure, but has anyone else been able to confirm this?"

Soon, the NIH will have its groundbreaking study showing Long Covid affects 23-25% of the population, affects mostly women, and those with symptoms.

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If you don't like science you're free to not follow a subreddit all about science

Just admit you don’t understand how science works.

Female sex was a significant risk factor.. whew, dodged a bullet on that one

The gay bois are gonna be alright.

What's the percentage of women vs men using the internet as their "diagnosis"?

As a female who fucks other females... What??

Not so fast, they didn't specify humans. You may still need to go have some awkward conversations.

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Thank god I’m male and can have all the sex I want with this new found evidence.

Whatdya mean? Of course, I do. Scientists have to do similar survey studies to replicate findings even if the same findings have already been found 20 or more times so they can get paid from their universities or governments.

If you think scientists like me are in it for the money, boy do I have news for you. Stick to your anti-work ethic whilst we improve your life for peanuts.

I don't understand the unfriendly attitude here or the assumption that I don't like science. If you knew the history of the NIH and CDC, then you'd understand.

I wonder if this will one day affect the majority of the population. 25% in 3 years is really a significant amount of infected to have long covid. And the virus will continue to infect millions and millions more. There’s no more efforts like masking or isolation time or anything, and many aren’t updated on their vaccines or have never had one.

You see, in the real world, scientific theories are tested several times, as repeated outcomes strengthens hypotheses. I’m sure you’re used to just reading random bs on FB just saying something is true, and that’s good enough for you to be fact, but us adults, we appreciate the scientific method and repeated testing for proof.

Nice. Very passive aggressive.

Why do you think I look at FB? I don't think you understand the point I'm making at all.

In most many many fields of science, experiments are never done again to replicate findings. And many times the findings fail to be replicated when it is actually done, sometimes because the same protocol was not followed. And sometimes studies are never replicated but are still taken as fact by governments and institutions.

So, my point is this: why do this survey study when it's been done many, many times with similar findings when it's so trivial (and a waste of resources in my opinion) and when there's a lot more studies that need replication to actually help the people being affected.

I’m a male dealing with my second round of long covid after a reinfection.

Can Reddit please stop with all of these lame jokes about a serious medical condition that even many doctors aren’t treating with due urgency PLEASE.

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I think they were just making fun of the poor job OP did titling this. No one here thinks Covid isn’t serious.

Women likely to report post-Covid syndrome, study finds

Take COVID…please.

Yeah, it’s unfortunate that even when vaccinated and boosted and masked, others who aren’t those things can still choose to spread it to us. I got Covid just a few weeks after a booster shot a year ago because my coworkers and the customers rarely masked or didn’t have up to date vaccinations. Just basing that off the reported numbers. It sucks. And now we might have permanent or long term health issues because of other peoples’ carelessness when it comes to infectious disease. I’m just glad I’m not immunocompromised or have some serious physical disability, otherwise I could potentially be a hell of a lot worse

At least the vaccine you took lessens the seriousness of the infection and reduces risk of hospitilization.

Yeah. It’s not enough comfort though considering there’s still a 1 in 5 chance I’ll get long covid and it gets more likely with each reinfection

What’s the different between covid -19 hospitalizations, and initial symptomatic covid -19

I’m vaccinated and boosted but haven’t worn a mask regularly in about a year. I still have never had Covid despite being exposed to it multiple times. Then I have a friend that is vaccinated, boosted, and masks regularly that ended up in the icu with COVID.

Vaccination also lowers the overall chance of long-Covid, and it looks like vaccination might even help treat the ongoing symptoms of long-Covid: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(22)00354-6/fulltext

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Obviously that's not working. So why are we doing any of this?

Long Covid to best of my knowledge really only lasts a few months. Exceptions outside of that are way less

Right, good thing I do not have sex.

Well 25% is a pretty big goddamn number. That's definitely gonna be noticeable.

Small sample size but still a bit scary.

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” - 1984

If you were symptomatic when diagnosed with COVID, or if you were hospitalized when you were sick, you have a higher risk of suffering from long COVID syndrome.

The most convincing explanation for long COVID syndrome to me is that the hyper coagulable state seen in COVID patients is causing tiny, subclinical blood clots. In the brain, this leads to widespread tiny strokes essentially, causing the symptoms of brain fog and reduced cognitive functioning. Female sex as a risk factor makes sense in this case, as higher estrogen levels are associated with increased risk of clotting.

You need to accept some responsibility in your life.

Also females who could be on contraception. The pill is known to increase risk of blood clotting (perhaps due to the estrogen? I’m unsure of the reason so don’t wanna guess incorrectly)

Some people will use this as ammunition to recommend we implement chasing covid-zero. The thing is that while a 25% chance of long covid really sucks, we cannot forever be petrified of this disease and refrain from living our lives because of this risk. The virus isn't going away, it will probably be around in some form for decades. The best we can do it take reasonable steps to prevent infecting large numbers of people, but we must not lose our lives and livelihoods to achieve this.

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That doesn’t sound accurate. I’ve seen a lot of studies that have shown persistence several months later, and of course this is ongoing because the disease is still “new”.

Uh, what? Was this a shot at women, or are you just ignoring the other risk factors for some reason?

That’s my opinion. Summarising the findings. Men are likely to complain less, care about their health less, visit doctors less and simply disregard their degrading physical condition on aging

Physiology might play role in COVID infection also. Women have higher percentage of fat in comparison to men (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3411490/)

As we know, SARS-CoV-2 virus deposits in fat tissues https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2022/09/stanford-medicine-study--sars-cov-2-infects-fat-tissue--creates-.html

>several months later

Yes that's what I am talking about a few months. Maybe you took offense at me using few instead of several? Just did a quick search of long Covid recently and the amount of months it lasts is longer than I last checked a while ago.

For long Covid I am mainly talking about debilitating conditions like brain fog, cognitive decline, severe fatigue, etc. That being said sounds like I need to look at more recent data. I like to look stuff up then not look up for a while, which doesn't work for new stuff as well I guess.

….all this means is that it’s likely underreported among the male cohort. Not sure why you’re singling it out as women report more. It’s more that men report less. And that’s also just one aspect of the findings. The startling number of people with long COVID in the study is more salient.

Glass half full or half empty. Tomato tomato

No no, I think the distinction is very important. If your hunch is correct, and men are underreporting their symptoms, that means studies like this could be giving the wrong impression and a false sense of security to men. They may take more risks and not seek early treatment that could change the outcome of their long-term health. Just saying “women report more” can obfuscate the more salient point that men might be reporting less but are actually at more risk of long-COVID than they think.

If I understand your comment right, how is the person you're responding to not accepting responsibility?

Bingo! Premenopausal women (higher estrogen levels than post menopausal) who are taking hormonal birth control are at much higher risk of clotting events. The study in this post was conducted mainly in Saudi Arabia, where rates of normal birth control usage are much lower than the US. From a quick control F, they didn’t control for birth control. If not controlled for, I imagine the association between female sex and long COVID would be stronger in the US. I don’t think birth control is a confounded though, as women at baseline have higher risk of blood clots.

By masking and vaccinating to the best of my ability I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Thank you, it didn't make any sense to me either :-) I'm here scratching my head

But that's not, NOT a big deal. When employers think illness already is a madeup excuse to not work, what happens when you're underperforming for months on end?

>But that's not, NOT a big deal. When employers think illness already is a madeup excuse to not work, what happens when you're underperforming for months on end?

Doesn't change anything. Companies will get rid of you for bs excuse regardless of illness. They only care about performance and output.

That’s not really how that works, but go off.