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ImmuneHack t1_j4q3bka wrote

Neither a high educational attainment nor a high income reduces the likelihood of obesity among blacks.

It's absurd to think that a low income US Asian is more likely to be obese than a high income US black person.

Ergo, poverty is not the driver of the high rates of obesity among blacks.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40615-019-00663-z

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2017hayden t1_j4q8kx3 wrote

Once poor eating habits are established it can be very difficult to change them. Ergo if you grow up eating largely junk food you’ll probably continue to make poor nutritional choices even if you have the means to do better than that. You’re jumping to conclusions off of a flawed premise.

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Hearing_Deaf t1_j4rg251 wrote

So are you. You are literally claiming that bad food habits cannot be changed, just because it was started in childhood. In my humble opinion, it's extremely racist to claim blacks don't have the willpower to break bad eating habits, no matter their education and wealth.

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anubiz96 t1_j4sd2k9 wrote

Its southern food culture it gets passed down. Look at what makes up southern American cuisine and soul food. To a point it is a result of racism as the food preferences and cooking habits are in no small part influenced by waht slaves were able to obtain for food.

I imagine you might see higher obesity rates ong multigenerational southern whites too due to the shared food culture.

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Hearing_Deaf t1_j4sl831 wrote

So? They use more fried food. The french put so much butter on everything it's not even funny. A croissant is litterrally 1:1 dough and butter. The italians and olive oil. Canadians with poutine and mapple syrup. Every culture has some good and some bad elements to it.

Plus you do not have to cook the same 3 things for the rest of your life, no matter where you are from. The world is big, it's a choice to eat only bad or fast food. It can still be your culture, but restricting yourself to a certain diet is a choice, not an obligation.

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anubiz96 t1_j4svzr1 wrote

Not saying its an obligation. But people more often than not peoole adhere closely to their culture. To a point we are all subject to our environmentand cultures. If it was very easy obesity wouldn't be on the rise in general around the world. Our bodies have hormonal responses to salt sugar and fat.

This is a really complicated topic. I would recommend if it really interets you that you do some in depth study on the history of slavery in the Untied states and the fall out after the civil war. The discrimination and the opression that followed officially well into the 1960s. There's a greater lacknof understanding of nutrition and access to healthy foods among poor people in general and black people in the United States have been disproportionately poor.

As well as how current food trends developed in the Untied States.

Its very complicated we all have free will, however most humans conform to their environment and culture.

Theres no one simple answer. There are many factors some to do with individual choice and also outside forces.

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2017hayden t1_j4t96ep wrote

I never claimed “blacks don’t have the willpower to break bad eating habits” I claimed that bad habits when started at a young age are difficult for anyone to break. That’s been studied and confirmed. You’re trying awfully hard to twist a specific narrative out of my words.

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anubiz96 t1_j4scpgz wrote

People are missing geography black people were largely enslaved in the southand lived for generations after in the south. Look at southern cuisine. The fact thet so much of traditional black american foods are based around the best you can with poor quality food available to slaves. There's a lot of fat, and frying etc. Cooking techniques used to make poorer quality food tasty.

If im not mistaken the south in general is more obese than other areas. I imagine southern whites are also more lokely to be obese as they were eating alot of thr same food as much if it was you know prepared by blacke people. Even if black people move from yhe south the food culture is born from there.

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