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lurklurklurkPOST t1_j4pq2pe wrote

Greater biodiversity in one's environment leads to a wider range of defensive measures in one's immune system, leading to a wider variety of defensive measures passed to offspring.


whenitsTimeyoullknow t1_j4q97br wrote

Biodiversity is fairly simple to achieve in suburbia. Most subdivisions have vegetated stormwater infrastructure, like roadside ditches. Having flowering groundcover like clover in the planting plan, allowing native plants to propagate and act like a “meadow,” using various practices (Integrated Pest Management) to control invasive plants, and avoiding mowing during the peak blooms all make a huge difference.

Note too that stormwater systems are generally the connected spaces which allow for animals like frogs and invertebrates to travel. There’s some threat of these ponds turning into ecological traps, but if you build it, they will come. Imperfect habitat is better than no habitat.

Edit: I’ll add that one of the best ways to make a difference is to keep a native wildflower seed blend on-hand (I use spice jars on my belt) and sprinkle/smush onto dirt patches in urban areas. If your plants are native and appropriate for the exposure, you’ve created a little gas station for migrating pollinators.


bubblerboy18 t1_j4qp14o wrote

In Georgia there’s more diversity in the middle of Atlanta than in suburbia. It’s really weird honestly. Car centric suburbs overflowing with HOAs that hate wildflowers and maintain grass is a big issue down south.


0range_julius t1_j4qzjkq wrote

>HOAs that hate wildflowers and maintain grass

I guess it's just a matter of taste but I just truly cannot imagine preferring a grass lawn to a meadow of wildflowers.


Jahkral t1_j4reret wrote

The mind of the HOA enforcer is a twisted and warped place defined by technicalities and a blurry aspirational picture of white 1950's suburbia.


Ragfell t1_j4rffw4 wrote

Tall grasses/meadow flowers encourage other kinds of pests (like snakes, opossums, and rats) to live near your home. You ultimately don’t want them that close, because they can come inside (my mom had a snake in her house last year).

I keep a front yard of grass (also easier for some lawn games), but have garden beds for native plants. Healthy compromise.


Claughy t1_j4s34oo wrote

Snakes and possums aren't pests, they keep pests away.


sparklezpotatoes t1_j4sbr72 wrote

and as for rats, cats will keep them out of the home and theyre very skittish. a child playing in a yard of wildflowers and native plants probably wont come into contact with any of those "pests." to the person youre replying to: not all native plant meadows are tall grass and flowers, either. think clover!


seridos t1_j4snim3 wrote

Yes they are, a pest is literally defined by being unwanted. If someone doewnt want them there and they are, they are a pest from their perspective.


Claughy t1_j4sqd25 wrote

Pest is usually defined by being injurious to property, health, or crops. They don't fit the bill and basic human activity will keep them from taking up residence 9 times out of 10, long grass or no.


jimmifli t1_j4rjdy4 wrote

Walking barefoot on grass in the summer is such a beautiful sensory experience. Outside of that I prefer just about everything else.


spacelama t1_j4rnp8d wrote

I did that yesterday after a rainstorm following a godawful hot day. I was surprised at how it felt.


maxximii t1_j4qxv4t wrote

I live in and around Atl, that's not even close to true. The heart of the city is just like any other, maybe a little more green, trees, parks than most. But further out you go from center, the more forests, greenery you find. Our sprawling suburbia is still packed with forests, lakes, rivers, fields. It's still mostly forest if you ever look at it from the sky

But yea, HOAs here are horrible


bubblerboy18 t1_j4rn8ij wrote

It may be that some areas of atlanta have more to offer than some suburbs in terms of access to parks. Where I grew up the only park was a 15 min drive of 3 mile run. In the city the closest park is right out front of the door. Depends where in the city obviously but shared green space is more of a thing inside the perimeter than outside neighborhoods. Of course there are some decent neighborhoods with tons of deer but I still prefer in town nature somehow unless we’re talking national parks


carebearstare93 t1_j4r3kvv wrote

Yup. Had to get a fence in order to have a native garden in my backyard here. Rest of the neighborhood is just Bermuda grass.


BoredomIncarnate t1_j4quzf2 wrote

I think /r/NoLawns has some good info on clover and wildflower seed blends. They are certainly mentioned relatively frequently.


kent_eh t1_j4r7vnr wrote

>Biodiversity is fairly simple to achieve in suburbia.

Less so in high density "concrete jungle" urban environments.


jarwastudios t1_j4rwc1h wrote

Do you think there could be a difference in a summer pregnancy VS winter? I'm in the Midwest where its lush and green for summer but grey and dead in the winter.


whenitsTimeyoullknow t1_j4s92yy wrote

I think there is a difference, but there is no limit to the amount of research and hypotheses about what affects pregnancy. A pregnancy typically lasts long enough to gain some seasonal exposure at some point. If you were concerned about having immunodeficiencies due to a long winter, you should ingest locally sourced honey. Since they gather pollen from neighboring flowers, you’re inoculated to allergen-causing plants (as is the baby, theoretically).


whiskeyjane45 t1_j4qeq69 wrote

My family and I inherited land and I have worked on re-introducing more native species of trees and flowering plants for pollinators around the areas near the house. I have breastfed each of my three children, so this is definitely cool to read this morning as I nurse my third.


PrincessSandySparkle t1_j4qbxgw wrote

I’d be interested to see what benefits of raising a child from birth in a big city like New York or Los Angeles would look like, plenty of studies on the downside.


whenitsTimeyoullknow t1_j4qyara wrote

More moxie, a refined taste for pizza, knowledgeable on driving aggressively or defensively, heightened tolerance for crowds and smells.


UDK450 t1_j4tb3m6 wrote

Heightened tolerance for smells? Go to rural farm land where we get to smell fertilizer all the time, and sometimes you even learn the difference between cow/pig and turkey fertilizer based on the smell.


maxximii t1_j4qycsi wrote

I'd be interested to know if there even are any benefits. I honestly can't think of any.


ommnian t1_j4rf95f wrote

As someone living in a very rural area, I wish fervently that my kids were growing up in a more diverse community. I love where we live. But, I hate that their school has... Idk, maybe a half dozen non-white people in it.


Planqtoon t1_j4s5hrs wrote

Probably tons of useful social skills, better intellectual development, bigger chance to earn a fair wage.


JoeWhy2 t1_j4scjv2 wrote

If you look at Google maps on satellite view, try zooming in on the darker spots in urban areas. You'll find that the darker spots are in fact greener and have much larger and more affluent houses than the lighter areas. It's a "thing".


OTTER887 t1_j4rbvqu wrote

...sounds like these are just allergy-type responses, and the effects are overstated in the post title.


Planqtoon t1_j4s5oj2 wrote

Allergies can have a great effect on life quality though.


OTTER887 t1_j4s7iqn wrote

Far far from any causal effect having been established. It could increase your allergies, or could decrease, or could have zero effect on the infants immune system.


spacelama t1_j4rn5yd wrote

Meanwhile, here in Melbourne which is claimed to be the child allergies capital of the world...