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PeakFuckingValue t1_j95jfav wrote

My guy. Have you read 1984? Well after reading that I realized something: there is no dystopian hell too barren human nature won't eventually take us...

That means anything you can think of, no matter how bad, it's likely to happen at some point. Human history goes through extremely long periods of suffering at the hands of each other.

It's a mental war of cultures which occurs as all our minds get closer to a single collective consciousness. The internet brought everyone together in a way that may have been too extreme and too fast. It's a clash beyond reason. The uncovering of such drastically different ideals so suddenly has blown all hiding places out of the water.

The powers that be have all released their maximum propaganda strategies all over the world creating mass psychosis and even hypnosis. It's not even difficult.

Humans have a fight or flight mode that activates as part of our bodies' survival characteristics. When we're in that mode we are predictable like animals. How do you activate fight or flight mode? Fear and/or anger.

I mean ridiculously easy for the people who make the rules. Just increase monetary pressure, identity politics, race battles, gender battles, etc.

They have everything they need to play puppet master. Even starting international war can be strategy just to influence the mother land.

Now imagine. Can you really say that there is no way a human or group of humans could be so unethical that they wouldn't literally put everyone's brains under mass control/surveillance/influence maybe even activate fight or flight like a button?

Have fun with Jeff Bezos in your head.

-some whacko red pill conspiracy theorist (lol so dumb)

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turnip_burrito t1_j97h760 wrote

>Well after reading that I realized something: there is no dystopian hell too barren human nature won't eventually take us...

>That means anything you can think of, no matter how bad, it's likely to happen at some point.

Lmao no.

>Now imagine. Can you really say that there is no way a human or group of humans could be so unethical that they wouldn't literally put everyone's brains under mass control/surveillance/influence maybe even activate fight or flight like a button?

It could, but I don't see what strategic advantage it would give them. I'm sure we will have AGI before we have mind control technology.

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PeakFuckingValue t1_j97zpdi wrote

There's an equilibrium point coming. Automation will replace so much human function. A massive job shortage could occur that leads to what? Socialized programs to keep people sustained? On who's dime? Just enough mind control to make people passive towards a new standard of living that is inhumane. Think about what it would be like if the powerful were given a choice basically to create an entire world and future with only their own favorite people and cultures. World war has been a stalemate since nukes were mass produced. Mind control may be the only way forward without destroying the entire planet.

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turnip_burrito t1_j980diy wrote

It's certainly possible but I just don't see the point. Mind control tech is purely in the realm of sci-fi right now. AGI will occur before mind control.

A world in which rulers mind control their subjects to make them okay with inhumane living conditions is just arbitrarily cruel. The same technology (AGI) that develops mind control technology can just as easily be used to improve peoples' standards of living. Resources are basically endless when all labor is automated. The owners of the AGI would have to be out and out psychopaths to pursue a cruel goal like that. Not just negligent, or apathetic, but intentionally cruel.

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PeakFuckingValue t1_j982f8z wrote

Well I would just ask you to look around. Do you feel like people aren't acting crazy by media influence already? Whether you're up or down on the political spectrum you must have felt like there is some kind of radical group out there who is buying into a bunch of lies..

And ya. People in charge right now probably spend most of their resources and thinking on how to prevent people with lots of resources from threatening them. It's why we don't make as much progress as we should. It's like being handed infinite power but all of it must be used simply to maintain control of it. Not even a second to waste on trying to do something good with it. You're talking about handing equal opportunity for all people and all cultures with no guarantee they won't take over the power in the long run. Oppression is by design right now. They manufacture starvation to force people to work hard and keep the power they have. I know you and I would both strive to make a world like that. We sound like pretty progressive thinkers. Of course we want equality, healthcare, no poverty, housing for all, etc. We just need to find a way to unite globally and work together. The numbers should still be in our favor ✌️

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