SoulGuardian55 OP t1_j6z5mra wrote on February 2, 2023 at 10:34 PM

Reply to comment by FomalhautCalliclea in Controversy over current progress in AI by SoulGuardian55

>That is the silliest point of them all, with respect to the people you were talking to. First of all it can be said of many technologies, just think of space travel and the amazing discoveries it brought even indirectly. But even simpler: we haven't been doing that good in the last 40 000 years. Besides, that sounds a lot like an appeal to nature fallacy

Try to emphasize about that point. In another thread I mentioned three people (and their age) who engaged a topic with me. Such words (from 2nd point) came from youngest of them, who's 22.

The second person, which is 23, is a medical student, he's doubtful about complete handling to AI such work as art, but agrees that it's a powerful tool that enhances artists, writers and etc and can give them a lot of help. Out of three he seems most revelant and opened to topic. Of course, he excited about developments of biomedical AI.

The last one is an engineer, 28, just not so engaged in topic about AI and was brought to it partially after appearance of Generative AI and ChatGPT. But also sees potential in that technology.

FomalhautCalliclea t1_j73nifj wrote on February 3, 2023 at 8:57 PM

Very interesting that the ones more open to the topic are the most educated and versed in science oriented fields.

My overall advice would be not to talk right away about far future and the most improbable things (AGI, the singularity itself), but rather about current advances and progress, hence my reference to current achievements (the links), showing AI is far from being only "wrong" and having only "failures".

SoulGuardian55 OP t1_j73se3x wrote on February 3, 2023 at 9:29 PM

Love to speculate about exponential growth and future developments, but the current progress gives too much fuel for discussion alone. Narrow AI systems and their advances are what brought my attention more closely since late 2010's.

And make some check about these words in the post. They came mostly from youngest person (like I said before), and he is a social worker by education.