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genericrich t1_j9l85sv wrote

Reply to comment by just-a-dreamer- in Why the development of artificial general intelligence could be the most dangerous new arms race since nuclear weapons by jamesj

Let's game this out:

  • A state (say, China) develops AGI in a lab.
  • The US government intelligence service learns of this.

What happens?

  • It is the doctrine of the US DOD that nobody can challenge our supremacy on the battlefield. AGI is a direct threat to that supremacy.

Another scenario:

  • Say a Silicon Valley company develops AGI. Is the US government going to let one just sit around where our adversaries can get it or learn from it or copy it?

These things (if they ever exist) will be massively destabilizing and could easily spark a war just by existing. They wouldn't have to even DO anything.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_j9ldmqo wrote

So what, what is the US gonna do if China gets ahead? And vice versa?

You can't nuke China without ending the world. And China can't nuke the US. It has always been this way for 50 years.

The only solution to internal trouble is the eradication of capitalism. That is a good thing we all should work towards anyway in human evolution.

What did the government do during Covid Lockdowns? Handed out cash left and right. People remember. The next sucessfull political party will demand UBI then.

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Fhbob1988 t1_j9n2d1z wrote

That’s the reason AI is more dangerous. Your own argument for AI is also the argument why it’s more dangerous. Mutually assured destruction has kept humanity safe. The other guy knows they can’t press the button without killing themselves as well. ASI could kill us all without a second thought if not aligned properly.

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genericrich t1_j9ljoto wrote

You're living in a dream world if you don't think the US would act to prevent China from exploiting an AGI against them. Which it would, if it had one. (Just like the USA would, if it had one).

UBI? Please. Never gonna happen. Listen to the GOP nutjobs whine about "communism" in the USA now, for basic shit like social security and medicare. They would have aneurysms if someone was legit pushing UBI.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_j9lkgdw wrote

And what would the US gonna do about it?

You can't invade China and you can't nuke China without ending the world. China is pretty safe. China can nuke every city in the US.

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