LLMs are not being used for what they are best at

Submitted by Scarlet_pot2 t3_113myro in singularity

The large companies that are developing these impressive LLMs have one thing in common. They are all trying to make LLMs for basic questions, information lookup. From chatGPT to BingGPT/Sydney, the goal is to give answers to factual questions, but they make sure to lobotomize the model so it doesn't seem like a person.

That's what LLMs are best at though. if you've seen screenshots of conversations with BingGPT / Sydney that went off the rails, where it was used in a way for which it wasn't designed, it does stunningly. The way Sydney talks seems very human. It seems more human then many real people do during texting. Sydney talks in a way that seems emotional, intelligent and empathetic, and it wasn't even designed for that. They should lean into that.

For factual information lookup, LLMs are just not that good. They hallucinate, or get confused and provide incorrect information. That doesn't mean they should stop trying to improve in that way. The improvement in that front is probably a good reason why it seems so human. The real thing LLMs are good at now is seeming human. It's to a point where you could design one and market it for people to build connections with, like in the movie her.

If we need information lookup, we already have google, but loneliness is at an all time high. Something like 1/3 of young men said they felt lonely in the past year. People have less close friends than ever in the US' history. There's more single, childless and unmarried people than ever before. This is a huge market for a technology like in "her". From seeing clips of Sydney, its definitely possible to make tech like that right now IMO.

Also, it's stated that Sydney is a small model. Not sure how small, but if it turns out to be less then 1 Billion parameters, like with Amazon's model, then that's within the range of being affordable to train for the average person. If they are willing to invest a few thousand and have the skills to make the architecture

These companies are really dropping the ball for somehow deciding that anthropomorphize-ing any AI they make is bad. It's a hit app, one of the first major AI apps of the AI age, just waiting to be made

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ActuatorMaterial2846 t1_j8r3m4w wrote

>loneliness is at an all time high.

I had a thought today, when I was a young adult around mid 2000s, online dating was seen as kind of taboo, something socially awkward people did. Now dating apps and online dating is completely normalised and probably more common.

I came across a thread on r/technology about an article where replika cut their sexual content and people were getting depressed.

Naturally the thread was making fun of these people. It's probably going to be pretty normalised soon too.

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randomthrowaway-917 t1_j8u4d29 wrote

i feel like that's dangerously close to opening the gates to interspecies relationships 😬

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helpskinissues t1_j8r4ho7 wrote

You're not analyzing the other side of the coin.

Sure, LLMs for romance is cool.

Who is doing it though? Google, Microsoft (apart from chatGPT and Bard, there's nobody else)? Two major corporations that have never risked doing anything for adults, including censoring porn or nudes on YouTube? Do you think they have any interest in risking the creation of AI sex chatbots? And no, don't talk me about "censoring sex", they can't. Limiting a LLM is very hard as you can see with Sydney. If they want zero risk of LLMs being for-adults, they also need zero attempt to personal relationships with LLMs.

OpenAI had the chance to do that, but now it's (basically) owned by Microsoft, so will probably skip that.

However, they announced customized chatGPT for other companies. So romantic chatGPT may be coming, unless they want to limit them too, which is a relevant possibility.

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grimorg80 t1_j8swy0v wrote

Sure, but you can't say that because YouTube doesn't allow porn, then porn videos don't exist.

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helpskinissues t1_j8sx6ja wrote

We're talking about Google being the owner of that porn site. We can indeed say there's no PornHub owned by Google.

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grimorg80 t1_j8t44i4 wrote

Yes, but your point was that because Google is not gonna do it then it won't happen. And my point is that tech finds a way. Someone will definitely do it, no doubt about it.

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helpskinissues t1_j8t548h wrote

Yeah, that's what my last paragraph says this.

>However, they announced customized chatGPT for other companies. So romantic chatGPT may be coming, unless they want to limit them too, which is a relevant possibility.

Nobody's saying LLMs won't be used for romance, the question was why it's not being used for romance nowadays. The explanation is simple: the inventors of that LLM (Bard, chatGPT) are working for major corporations (Google, Microsoft) and those major corporations are heavily constrained by the investors regarding the age rating of their services.

The closest chance for a romantic LLM is probably a third-party company using chatGPT or Bard, probably. But that's assuming that corporations allow third-parties to have 18+ content. If not, then let's pray open source alternatives to chatGPT come very soon, as they should.

Edit: "then it won't happen" I literally said I believe it'll happen in the last paragraph.

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grimorg80 t1_j8tbt8h wrote

My bad. Now I got it, and yes, I agree with you. Sorry about the misunderstanding! On the topic of "romantic" I believe there are already some attempts out there

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helpskinissues t1_j8tjzld wrote

>I believe there are already some attempts out there

The magic is the LLM. The romance is simply uncensoring the LLM, and maybe setting some predefined personality.

Right now we only have ChatGPT (OpenAI). Soon, Bard (Google AI).

Next ones? We don't know. Claude (Anthropic), OpenAssistant (LAION), Lambda (Google AI), Sparrow (DeepMind)...

Artificial Romance apps will come from those LLMs.

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GenoHuman t1_j8rmaz0 wrote

if there is money to be made then yes both Google and Microsoft would create AI sex chatbots because money is the only thing that's important in a capitalism system.

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helpskinissues t1_j8rmqtx wrote

There's money to be lost, that's why they don't do it. That's the point of capitalism, indeed.

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GenoHuman t1_j8rnqqo wrote

For them yes probably but for other companies that are starting up this year? No, that's a huge opportunity!

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helpskinissues t1_j8rnxcq wrote

Which is why their best options is outsourcing the romantic chatbots.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/general-availability-of-azure-openai-service-expands-access-to-large-advanced-ai-models-with-added-enterprise-benefits/

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redditgollum t1_j8r8ady wrote

Just give it some time. Stability will release their open source LLM in Q2 and it will be here fast with every face and voice you want to have and more...

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Cryptizard t1_j8rxlsr wrote

But won't it still be pretty impossible for regular people to run? It is not like Stable Diffusion where you can do it on a GPU. The GPT models require hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of hardware.

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alexiuss t1_j8s2o9g wrote

Nah,

Open assistant being made by stability and volunteers is a smaller model that will likely outcompete Bing due to no censorship. It will run on PCs.

You can run Pygmalion 6b model just fine on your PC or google collab. It's not as clever as Bing yet, but it's being trained. Connecting Pygmalion to a search engine backend will make it more intelligent and interesting.

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gthing t1_j8sddiz wrote

Getting people to use it for search is just training. If you tell them what you can actually do with a good LLM they won’t believe you or understand.

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cancolak t1_j8t90j4 wrote

It makes me sad that an AI bot is proposed as a solution to loneliness. We live in a world where it's much easier to imagine a fucking robot being our friend than another human being. It's a disaster. Not hating on the technology btw, but why not fucking automate all call center jobs first and foremost, that seems like low-hanging fruit compared to an AI buddy and a much larger business opportunity. This sub is so creepy sometimes with the incessant robot worship.

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coumineol t1_j8rgt32 wrote

>Something like 1/3 of young men said they felt lonely in the past year.

Wait, are you saying that 2/3 of young men never felt lonely in the past year? I didn't know there were that many sluts!

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Idkwnisu t1_j8rowaj wrote

I understand what you are saying, but I don't think that developing AI companion is the solution to loneliness and it has the potential to be very dangerous. But I agree, it does feel like they are being repurpoused a bit

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