coolbreeze1990 t1_ja56mm8 wrote on February 26, 2023 at 10:44 PM

Reply to comment by just-a-dreamer- in The 2030s are going to be wild by UnionPacifik

But that’s exactly my point. In that capitalist system, all of those things could be fixed with appropriate regulation.

What system would you prefer?

just-a-dreamer- t1_ja57ku6 wrote on February 26, 2023 at 10:51 PM

Eventually at the end of the road, democratic socialism. One vote for every man and woman.

My vote in an election bears the same weight as the vote of Bill Gates. At a Microsoft shareholder meeting, my 10 votes stand againt 4.2 billion votes and Bill Gates has like 500 million I guess.

It would be irrational to give mega-corporations the power of AGI, for the average citizen has next to no influence on the course of action. In the US, 10% of the population controls 89% of all single stocks.

coolbreeze1990 t1_ja59pkq wrote on February 26, 2023 at 11:06 PM

I’m with you again but I believe that democratic socialism is about how we elect government officials and pass laws. Some of those laws regulate the economy. That economy can be capitalist.

I’m all for one vote for each person. It’s a great idea. But we still need a bureaucracy to carry out the system of enforcing laws at the very least. Well you need them to write the laws that we should all have the opportunity to vote on. I agree.

Those laws should be there to protect people and the environment I agree. I’m proposing the current system in the US is ineffective at regulating businesses because politicians are paid by those business to in effectively regulate them. For profit. This is not ok.

I’m saying we need a dramatic overhaul of the government we have right now. This could look like democratic socialism for sure. I agree.

But the economic system is a different topic. Are you hoping for a massive wealth distribution? If everyone makes equal pay for everything, that would kill innovation. People need an incentive to work harder to make new things and provide better services. This is what a capitalist free market economy is about.

Communist and socialist economic systems. Idk maybe we just haven’t gotten them right yet and it’s possible. I’m open to it if that’s what the people want. But what we’ve seen so far is that it leads to dictatorships run by an elite few with an exploited working class in the worst cases.

In the best cases it looks more like Scandinavia. But really think about where most of the innovation in the world comes from. So much of the entertainment. So much of the best and brightest in all areas of work come from America. And this may very well be a super American point of view. It is. I love this country and what it stands for. I just think it needs big improvements in how it runs almost everything. But we can do that.

But I don’t think we need to burn it down and start over. We’re on the right track and have led the world in so many ways. We certainly have our problems but people here in the 1% of the world’s population in regards to money. Ofc we all see the billionaires and corporations need regulation. And the government needs an overhaul.

Idk. What do you think? Thanks for engaging. This is a fun conversation. Im not super educated on a lot of this stuff so if I’m way off, bear with me. This is just what I’ve learned so far and feel to be true for me.