BigZaddyZ3 t1_j903fni wrote
Reply to comment by Iffykindofguy in I am a young teenager, and I have just learned about the concept of reaching singularity. What is the point of living anymore when this happens. by FriendlyDetective319
I didn’t give a hard time line tho… A hard timeline would be me giving specific dates and shit. I didn’t. You seriously need to improve your reading comprehension skills bruh.
It’s just pretty much universally agreed on by actual experts that if we ever achieve post-scarcity, it’ll before any singularity occurs. No other order even makes sense. There’s no guarantee humans will even still be around post-singularity. And the singularity isn’t even needed in order to reach post scarcity. So do the math there genius…
turnip_burrito t1_j9044d9 wrote
Singularity can (and is looking like it will) happen before post scarcity. It may even cause post scarcity.
BigZaddyZ3 t1_j904h6v wrote
I don’t agree because we’ll more than likely reach the level of AI needed for post-scarcity before we reach the level needed for a singularity to occur.
turnip_burrito t1_j90508k wrote
I guess it depends on how quick the takeoff is. When do you think we'll see AGI?
BigZaddyZ3 t1_j9058y6 wrote
In my opinion, it’d be foolish to try and pin it to an exact date. But I’d say we’re on path to reach it maybe in the 2040s possibly.
Iffykindofguy t1_j903mrg wrote
Please provide this ample evidence by experts explicitly stating that post scarcity would occur before a singularity by requirement.
BigZaddyZ3 t1_j90473x wrote
Lmao do you actually think I care what you think enough to go through the trouble of doing that? 😂😂Fuck off, I’m literally about to go to bed. I’m not gonna write a fucking research essay for you. Go do your own research if you care that much.
tms102 t1_j90a4ws wrote
It is clear you don't know what you're talking about.
BigZaddyZ3 t1_j90au3a wrote
>>The first person to use the concept of a "singularity" in the technological context was John von Neumann.[5] Stanislaw Ulam reports a 1958 discussion with von Neumann "centered on the accelerating progress of technology and changes in the mode of human life, which gives the appearance of approaching some essential singularity in the history of the race beyond which human affairs, as we know them, could not continue". [6] Subsequent authors have echoed this viewpoint.[3][7]
>>The concept and the term "singularity" were popularized by Vernor Vinge first in 1983 in an article that claimed that once humans create intelligences greater than their own, there will be a technological and social transition similar in some sense to "the knotted space-time at the center of a black hole",[8] and later in his 1993 essay The Coming Technological Singularity,[4][7] in which he wrote that it would signal the end of the human era, as the new superintelligence would continue to upgrade itself and would advance technologically at an incomprehensible rate.
>> Some scientists, including Stephen Hawking, have expressed concern that artificial superintelligence (ASI) could result in human extinction.
>>The other prominent prophet of the Singularity is Ray Kurzweil. In his book The Singularity is Near, Kurzweil basically agrees with Vinge but believes the later has been too optimistic in his view of technological progress. Kurzweil believes that by the year 2045 we will experience the greatest technological singularity in the history of mankind: the kind that could, in just a few years, overturn the institutes and pillars of society and completely change the way we view ourselves as human beings.
>>The technological singularity—or simply the singularity[1]—is a hypothetical future point in time at which technological growth becomes uncontrollable and irreversible, resulting in unforeseeable changes to human civilization.
You were saying? How exactly can we achieve a post-scarcity human society after the singularity when the most prominent proponents of the singularity believe we won’t even be able to control technology by that point and that it will mark the end of human era in one way or another? Use your fucking brain for fuck’s sake..
Iffykindofguy t1_j91isdm wrote
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BigZaddyZ3 t1_j92zsmz wrote
The exact type of low-IQ response I’ve come to expect from you tbh..
Iffykindofguy t1_j936bg5 wrote
Its funny because I dont think we actually disagree that much Im just annoyed by how certain you seem to think these things will be
BigZaddyZ3 t1_j938yb6 wrote
Well, in my defense, I’m just giving my opinion based on everything I’ve learned about the subject over the years. Just like we all do in this sub all the time. It’s not a crime to be confident in your opinion. And from the conversations we’ve had so far, you aren’t that much different when it comes to that.
But yeah, I was only giving my take on how things are likely to unfold. I wasn’t saying it was a 100% guarantee. If that’s what you thought then I see where some of the tension and confusion stem from. I wasn’t trying to say that it was an undeniable certainty. Just that what I described seems most likely to occur (imo).
Iffykindofguy t1_j93ufu8 wrote
We all do it yes, my point is how you communicate it is the problem. It does come off as a certainty that your word is law.
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