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Kinexity t1_j9lpr5n wrote

There is no proof that ASI can exist. It is proven that AGI can. AGI is a tangible goal while ASI is not.

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turnip_burrito t1_j9mea22 wrote

AGI on a faster GPU, with more storage and memory = ASI?

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Kinexity t1_j9meozu wrote

Nah. That's just boosted intelligence. Superintelligence compared to human intelligence should be like human intelligence compared to animal intelligence. There probably would have to be phase difference between those two assuming intelligence has levels and phase transitions and isn't a completely continous spectrum.

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turnip_burrito t1_j9mewez wrote

What about a society or corporation of AGI working in concert?

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Kinexity t1_j9mh4lt wrote

Society is an emerging property of a group of humans but not in terms of intelligence. If you took perfectly intelligent human (whatever that means) and gave him infinite amounts of time and removed the problem of entropy breaking things then he'd be able to do all the things that whole human society achieved. AGI is by nature of human level intelligence and I'd guess grouping them together is unlikely to produce superintelligence.

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WithoutReason1729 t1_j9mka0c wrote

While I definitely think AGI can exist, I wouldn't say it's proven yet, being that we don't have one. But if AGI can exist, I don't see anything that'd indicate it would stop there. What's your reasoning for thinking ASI might not be able to exist?

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Kinexity t1_j9mmiib wrote

Human brain runs GI and as such if AGI cannot exist then it would mean that the Universe is uncomputable and that our brains run on basically magic we cannot tackle at all. Even in that situation you could get something arbitrarily close to AGI.

>What's your reasoning for thinking ASI might not be able to exist?

I like looking at emergence as phase transitions. Emergence of animal intelligence from lack of it would be a phase transition and emergence of human intelligence from animal intelligence would be another one. It's not guaranteed to work like this but if you look at emergence in other things it seems to work in similar manner. I classify superintelligence as something which would be another transition above us - able to do something that human intelligence fundementally cannot. Idk if there is such thing and as such there is no proof ASI, as I define it, can exist.

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markasoftware t1_j9ns0yy wrote

There is an argument to be made that the reason we have consciousness is due to quantum stuff in the brain. And if consciousness is somehow a prerequisite for intelligence, that could be difficult to implement artificially.

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