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flamegrandma666 t1_jdq4ngt wrote

Reply to comment by often_says_nice in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice

Give me a break. You and similar ones are hust another iteration of doom sayers of christians eschatologists, saying the return of Jesus is upon us. There were people saying this since the beginnig of time, so no chance anything will happen now

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beezlebub33 t1_jdqezp3 wrote

I recognize your point, and try to withhold my enthusiasm. But this really does feel different. I don't know if it will be the same sort of 'different' that the introduction of PCs, the internet, and cell phones caused, but it feels even more 'different' than that.

The world has changed a lot in the past 50 years, technologically, economically, environmentally, and socially. The widespread use of LLM AIs is going to change it again, the only question is how much and how fast. I think more and faster. And whatever comes next is going to change it even more and even faster.

(And, as someone else pointed out, the difference between us and Christians is that we have data and can make plots of what has changed)

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Shiningc t1_jdsow1r wrote

LLM isn’t AGI and is nothing like AGI.

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flamegrandma666 t1_jdqfypr wrote

Its not just Christians, lots of other religions are eschatological. And the argument in the end does not hold water - the 2nd century gnostics would say exactly the same thing (they have the information and knowledge about the impending doom, as opposed to anyone else).

I've always had an issue with a notion of technological singularity, as its simply not how emergence works. Emergence (from systems theory) is a phenomenon built on a pre-ceding layer or substrate of reality. A/GI is emergent from computer networks and data, but it will not converge, or "lift" things from previous layers. I.e. go to Mongolia and hang out with villagers there. Ask them if they tbink we're about to hit singularity....

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GayHitIer t1_jdq88ks wrote

The difference is that Christianity is made up fiction to help people cope with the mysteries in life.

Technological Singularity is at least much more likely, the question here if it will be a soft take off or hard take off.

The rapture from "god" will never happen, but the technological singularity if it can happen it will happen sooner than later.

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