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S3ndD1ckP1cs t1_jcxkk59 wrote

Reply to comment by scooby1st in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen

If you read it again, it says “in grade school”. How early is too early? When does struggling to finish schoolwork become unnecessarily punishment?

As an adult, I use a mix of mental math and calculator use, and I find I am using a mix of composing text and idea generation with and without AI. Teach the concepts, then teach a better, more efficient way of doing things.

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scooby1st t1_jcxlhfb wrote

Elementary school teachers- in USA this is children. Even the sign says until upper grades. There are about 5 indicators that the point OP is trying to make is not illustrated by that newspaper.

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S3ndD1ckP1cs t1_jcxlqmi wrote

Oh, snap… you’re right. Didn’t notice that haha 😅

We should work with teachers to find a healthy middle ground that teaches concepts while also preparing students for an AI-driven world.

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scooby1st t1_jcxlscp wrote

Okay cool dude. Didn't ask.

EDIT: you did a nice edit from a completely insane comment about fascism and singularity blah blah blah to a sensible take. not sure if you're a troll or just not paying attention

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kmtrp t1_jcxo0nx wrote

Yup, thanks to reddit's API this is what he said before the edit:

>Luddites are fascist. The AI revolution cannot be stopped.
The singularity will save us all.

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S3ndD1ckP1cs t1_jcxxm8g wrote

Can you also do that to when they called me an idiot for that comment?

I think that kind of response was uncalled for.

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scooby1st t1_jcy5vf7 wrote

Poor little baby with the crocodile tears after some failed internet trolling. Quit being a net negative.

EDIT: I mean, props for trolling ultranationalist Europeans, I guess? But keep the shit in the pig pen.

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S3ndD1ckP1cs t1_jcz7jtl wrote

You think it’s trolling after you called me an idiot? How about you quit making personal insults?

I’m not soft on Luddites or Luddite-sympathizers.

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scooby1st t1_jd099zb wrote

You are what happens when parents don't hug their kids. Blocked 🥰

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ToHallowMySleep t1_jcy7uw7 wrote

Oh no, you were OFFENDED.

So what happens?

Nothing. Be offended. Next time don't act like an idiot.

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S3ndD1ckP1cs t1_jcz7o64 wrote

That’s what the report button is for. What happens next is anyone’s guess.

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ToHallowMySleep t1_jcznzeq wrote

Reporting someone when they call you an idiot, for you writing "luddites are fascist".

Let's hope they have Sherlock Holmes on call to resolve this one.

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S3ndD1ckP1cs t1_jcxo2v7 wrote

Yes, because I overreacted, but you also edited and removed the part of your comment where you called me an idiot.

Chill, hun… it’s only the singularity. 🦾

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GlobusGlobus t1_jcxr3u1 wrote

Dear S3ndD1ckP1cs,

Do you want your dickpicks before or after the singularity?

Best,

Globus

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S3ndD1ckP1cs t1_jcxxn6y wrote

Yes.

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GlobusGlobus t1_jcy1k1k wrote

With the Use of the timeless decision theory, as developed by Eliezer Yudkowski, I am pretty convinced that we can figure this out.

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leper99 t1_jd1duz3 wrote

"I showed you my singularity. pls respond"

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jugalator t1_jcxw5k8 wrote

> Teach the concepts, then teach a better, more efficient way of doing things.

You just stated why they don't want them in elementary school.

Also, it's hardly punishment to teach young kids why they arrive at certain answers. The calculator skips the steps, so you're doing them a disservice in the long run to not "punish" them. It's going to be a much harsher punishment trying to understand later on because math is really unforgiving to that. The greatest problem in math is generally that the students don't follow out of lacking understanding in preceding courses.

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