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TuvixWasMurderedR1P t1_jcxooea wrote

I've taught kids and I've been using ChatGPT for my own stuff a lot lately.

It's great to supplement your work by fixing grammar, spelling, and maybe even economizing your words. But it's incredibly obvious when it's been used. I think any half decent teacher/professor will be able to distinguish its use in regard to plagiarism vs its use in regard to assistance - the latter of which I think should be acceptable and possibly even encouraged.

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DefinitelyMoreThan3 t1_jcxsccy wrote

Sometimes ChatGPT will come out with a phrase or sentence that is directly insertable into my writing, either because it is more succinct or more complete, or both, than what I could come up with organically. And I think if you use it in this way (only taking a select few sentences where applicable) then it is pretty much undetectable. But on the other hand, it’ll sometimes spit out nonsensical ideas or illogical arguments, and the diction is pretty obvious in the context of the entire answer, so you really can’t just copy and paste the entire response.

I basically just see it as an accelerator for my own thinking, rather than a replacement for it. I find that it produces additional trains of thought that I may have not considered and gives me a basic understanding of concepts that I’ll dive deeper into.

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fastinguy11 t1_jcxui82 wrote

You are not exploring gpt 4 far enough.

Give it this prompt and a text of your choosing for it to play with.
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For the text bellow show me a formal, a semi-formal and informal version, each version has to be in 3 styles based on different famous authors ( you can modify this prompt for any authors or types of authors)
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So it will make it much harder to guess this is from a.i like you think it is

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ToHallowMySleep t1_jcy84ls wrote

Unfortunately, claiming it's detectable is a defense that will only work in the short term. Very short term.

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JackFisherBooks t1_jcyhoem wrote

Thanks for sharing your insights. I suspect a lot of teachers are seeing the same things you're seeing at the moment.

But I think the real test will come when ChatGPT gets more sophisticated and harder to detect. The current versions are plenty flawed. But they're not going to stay that way. They're going to keep improving. I'm sure there's a better way to manage its use in education. I'm just not sure what it is and I hope teachers are considering this as they move forward.

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Cartossin t1_jcz5wsl wrote

I think it's only obvious when very little care is put into its use. If you just dump the homework in and paste in the output, it might seem suspiciously uncharacteristic. However, if you use specific prompts to generate specific parts of the thing you're trying to write, at some point you can make it totally plausible that you wrote the whole thing.

I should hope that a good writer would have enough artistic integrity to use it for ideas, but still construct all their own sentences.

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