Submitted by Current_Side_4024 t3_127prm1 in singularity
Which is ironic bc they’ve done so much to bring about change but now that AI is reaching a tipping-point, they don’t wanna go over the edge bc then they won’t be seen as smart anymore. Being a cutting edge researcher is a pretty sweet life, everyone sees you as a genius, and that’s what they’re trying to hold on to. But AI is gonna make us all look like fools, including them, and that’s what they’re afraid of
I’m curious what the economic system would be after many (most?) white collar jobs are eliminated? (This presumes that nearly all blue collar jobs will be lost to automation.)
I don’t disagree that capitalism is flawed, but it’s easy to say “get rid of it” and hard to say “here’s what replaces it.” Ubi? How do humans continue to create value in that scenario? This is an important question that nobody seems to have a plausible answer to.
This whole notion that white collar would be replaced by AI anytime soon is so ridiculous
another fine example of the continued decline of this subreddit.
absoloutely. This is the same reaction everyone had in my local online newspaper comments to these news.
Super low IQ people making up shit and somehow it gets to be a top comment. The (intellectual) elite is scared of losing their literal lives to AI, not their status or money.
Why do the dumbest of the dumbest in every room in real life feel qualified to comment on the implications of AI stuff on the internet?
"When everyone is super, no one will be."
"When everyone is rich, no one will be."
Why is the government not already making a plan to transform the economy, even in a draft version? We are all fucked
One of the two political parties in the US are absolutely devoted to the idea that government should never do anything to help individuals in any way whatsoever. And brainwashed people continue to vote for them. This country has been headed in entirely the wrong direction since LBJ. The fact that AI is emerging at a time when our society has never been less prepared for it is unfortunate. At the same time, the disruption of our labor market is going to force the change and progress that's been sorely needed for a long time. There's going to be a painful transition period where wide swaths of people will be unable to put roofs over their heads or food on the table. Unfortunately it takes tragedies like that to get voters to act in their own interests. Look at history - the US dragged their feet on the holocaust until it was very nearly too late. During the Great Depression they continued to vote for Hoover and other politicians that refused to take action. It was only when the public felt real pain that they elected FDR. It's absolutely going to be the same for the emergence of AI and the disruption of the labor market. They will vote for the most selfish, greedy, corrupt, tech-illiterate, god-bothering nitwits right up until it means starvation for their children. It's stupid and tragic, but a valuable lesson for people I guess.
This is the real question. We can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Any investment that isn't going into AI and Robotics is a waste. We should be in full on 1955 space race mode but it's not even on the radar. Absolute insanity.
>Any investment that isn't going into AI and robotics is a waste.
No offense, but this is one of the most ridiculous things that I've read on reddit in a while.
And this is coming from someone who thinks the government should invest more in AI/robotics. But investing all of it? That would be insane.
Governments are pretty disconnected from reality recently in most of the world.
Is suspect correlation with average age of politician increasing.
I'm thinking because government is best at being reactionary instead of proactive. In the US, it is also beholden to capitalist framework which encourages the status quo.
I wouldn't put faith in government to be able to start to address this. It's not equipped to adapt to this type and speed of change. Government will be increasingly irrelevant.
They have it
No its a little bit more complex than that. I dont agree with a pause but writing it off as this just shows youre the same coin just a different side.
The side of the coin for progress? What are the two sides?
Any sentence that include "is just.." or "are just..." loses most if not all credibility. It's communicating you have a simplistic perception of a complex world.
What are the benefits precisely of overcomplicating things?
Your question is not well framed. For complex matters there should be at least complex thoughts. I don't know if the solutions have to be complex but the conversations must be. To fail to do so is an oversimplification of the subject which is bound to fail.
KISS
That's a design principle. What are you designing?
Moreover, the simplest explanation would be that they're telling the truth. They're afraid of getting killed.
this is probably the most childish post i've ever seen on the internet
Well once the computers come for your job, they tend to start making arguments against it.
I feel like they are getting left in the dust and all they can think of is some fear mongering.
It'd have more credibility if the apartheid beneficiary didn't sign.
They're not scared of change. They're feeling FOMO that their own AI efforts haven't stepped up yet, and they're hoping to put the brakes on others so they can catch up and compete.
It's pathetic, really.
No, in an ideal world this is sensible. things are probably moving a bit too quickly at the moment. We've waited decades for this so pausing for 6 months to ensure were moving forward safely is sensible.
But it's not an ideal world, not everyone will agree to this so it's pointless.
These people need to be viewed as the Neo-luddites
theres way more to be concerned about than just the possibility of AI making us look foolish…
Well, why do you trust AI to take care of us? Or do you just want it to replace us.
I am scared of bad change, probably you are too.
No, they are scared of the politicians who have their hands on their purse strings.
Or they have seen the Terminator. There are much greater reasons to be concerned with AI other than pride.
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agonypants t1_jefcxn4 wrote
The impression I have is that FLI wants a neutered version of AGI that isn't disruptive to the status quo. They want an AGI that won't make people uncomfortable, that preserves our awful capitalist structures. In other words, they seem to want to avoid an AI that doesn't benefit people too broadly or too quickly. The whole point of AGI in my mind is that it can completely displace the poisonous economic systems that we've been propping up for the past two hundred odd years. Furthermore, AGI can tremendously accelerate the pace of technological progress - again, benefitting humanity broadly and sooner rather than later.
I will always prefer fast, broadly beneficial expansion of new technology. Nobody "paused" the polio vaccine for six months - and for good fucking reason. And yes, I see our current political and economic crises as equally as urgent as polio was.