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jltyper t1_jdtjlm4 wrote

Optimistic evil is a strange category. Ultron was just using the same logic as hal 9000 wasn't he?


roomjosh OP t1_jdtk18k wrote

The Y axis is about the story itself. Disney's Avengers Age of Ultron tells the tale of good overcoming wickedness. It is hopeful and lets the audience know that a team of heroes will save the day. Goodness will triumph in the end. An individual will sacrifice themselves for the greater good.


FaceDeer t1_jdtwwp7 wrote

I'm not sure Terminator should be way down at the bottom, then. The humans end up winning the war against Skynet. We don't see that part explicitly on screen, but it's the reason why Skynet used a desperation gambit like time travelling to change the past.


roomjosh OP t1_jdtxjvz wrote

Ugh. Terminator is it’s own thing. T1 (grim)and T2 (hopeful) are pure sci-fi dystopian wish fulfillment, then it gets weird with the rest. I’ll defend the and first 2 films, but not much else.


FaceDeer t1_jdtymu7 wrote

Same here, I basically ignore T3 onward. I addressed Terminator specifically (the first one) because that was the one whose cover was on the chart.