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alexiuss t1_je6heuw wrote

LLMs produce problem solving intelligence.

They help programmers produce new software, help writers produce new books, help doctors and researchers produce new medicine and research, help game companies produce better open world games.

My wife is literally using chatgpt4 to write completely new software for her work. This software is a PRODUCT that didn't exist before! Software makes money. It can be bought and sold. It's just one example of a product produced with gpt4, there are thousands of these all over in every industry!

It's an intelligence explosion.

I think that you deeply misunderstand potential of LLMs and understimate the amount of jobs unlocked when LLMs get even more intelligent and begin spouting infinite incredible products, ideas, solutions and inventions at humanity which we will have to build.

Entire new industries will be born through an explosion of innovation brought about by LLMs.

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Focused-Joe t1_je6ozu4 wrote

Your wife software may become Obsolete in couple of weeks.

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alexiuss t1_je6v3v4 wrote

Two weeks? Damn your timeline is rapid.

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VetusMortis_Advertus t1_je7an2k wrote

Yes, that's the problem, you think your wife is the only one creating a new product with gpt4? Soon there will be a boom of new apps, websites, platforms, because it will be done in hours. Sure, looks nice at first, but i think it can look pretty bleak in 1 or 2 years when those things have no value anymore

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alexiuss t1_je7idki wrote

the value of all programming is decreasing, its bloody amazing. we'll be building dyson spheres soon at this rate

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Express-Set-1543 t1_jegq4vw wrote

Where will the apps be hosted? While AI can assist in creating a web app, its success depends on having sufficient computer resources to host it. For an unlimited number of successful apps, websites, and platforms, we would need an equally unlimited number of servers. However, when demand rises, so do the prices of these servers.

One potential solution is to move the AI onto customer devices. However, this approach is also limited by the resources available on those devices

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thecatneverlies OP t1_je7cgvu wrote

I think developers are in a much safer spot than most due to their ability to constantly learn and evolve. They do only make up 2-3% of the population though. I do get your point but I guess my fear is that the intelligence explosion only levels up with human intelligence but doesn't truly surpass it for sometime, so we end up with the jobs going away but none the innovation needed to fill the void.

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alexiuss t1_je7faw7 wrote

Here's how I see it:

Software is moving insanely fast vs hardware.

Machine intelligence (once it surpasses intelligence of people) will develop tons of ideas, but it will take it a long-ass time to penetrate into the physical world from digital world

Robots will take resources and time to build. Robot arms aren't cheap while having an LLM on your pc costs almost nothing.

In Canada it takes 5 months to build a bridge for example and a factory building took 10 years to build because of how insanely ineffective and slow goverment is at granting building permits for such things. If goverment takes an anti-robot stance denying building robots here, the factories wont ever be built in Canada and robots will take ages to be manufactured at and be exported from china, etc. The goverment can straight up deny imports or tax them insanely high too if they want to be dicks, which is very possible. It's how they destroyed the Arrow and keep screwing up the local industry keeping internet prices ridiculously high so that two corporations can keep their vile monopoly over the internet.

While building robots can be easily stopped, tons of other things cannot be stopped by goverment.

Business ideas generated by superintelligent LLMS will start new companies that will hire people to execute them into reality.

We will have to build things designed by machines, that's tons and tons of jobs for everyone until enough robots are made to replace all physical labor preformed by billions of people now.

Billions of robots aren't going to magically poof into existence unlike software which can replicate, spread and upgrade very rapidly. It's impossible for goverment and corporations to stop open source software from spreading, unlike hardware which they can delay or destroy in tons of sneaky ways.

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DarkMatter_contract t1_je8nwov wrote

The think is if i saw that app, soon enough i can just say to gpt copy that app, and i will have it for the api price.

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