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Stinky_the_Grump23 t1_jedjzqe wrote

Reply to comment by sideways in Goddamn it's really happening by BreadManToast

I have very young kids and I'm already wondering what our discussions will be around when reminiscing about the days "before AI", like I used to ask my dad who grew up without cars or electricity in a village of illiterate farmers. The crazy thing is, we have no real idea where AI is taking us, good or bad. I don't think our future has ever looked so uncharted as it does right now.

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Talkat t1_jeeml6h wrote

Man, that is going to be the defining moment. A world without electricity is hard to imagine for me. But honestly before "smart phone" or even before "PC" isn't that unimaginable.

Like sure things will be a bit different but the fundamentals of life aren't.

But I can imagine for someone growing up with AI a time before AI (BAI not BCE... Lol) would be unimaginable. Like:

You had to do all the thinking yourself? You relied on other people who thought for themselves? You had people doing manual labor??

And of course things we can't even imagine now.

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SeaBearsFoam t1_jeew9rh wrote

Yea, I have an 8yo myself and as I try thinking about planning for his future it's a bit unsettling realizing that I have no idea what the world is even going to be like when he graduates from High School. What kind of jobs will be left for him at that point? No one knows.

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DinosaurHoax t1_jeftezu wrote

I have a 10 and 9 year old. One is good at writing but is that something that will matter in a future job market, five years ago I would have said unequivocally "yes". Now it may be irrelevant. Do you want your kid's to be a lawyer or doctor anymore? Or is that just setting them up for displacement?

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fnordstar t1_jegciez wrote

Lawyers, I won't shed a tear for.

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theKaufMan t1_jegs2ve wrote

One never knows when they’ll need a good and trusted lawyer…

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Bearman637 t1_jee5x12 wrote

Take me back to your dads day. Life was simpler.

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FlatulistMaster t1_jee6zvr wrote

Yeah, no.

Ask anybody who is old, and they will tell you how much harder life was in practically every way possible.

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Automatic_Paint9319 t1_jee8xla wrote

Really? Old people tend to talk about how the old days were better, in my experience.

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Professional-Age5026 t1_jeeoeje wrote

I think that’s mostly nostalgia mixed with the fear of growing older in an increasingly changing society. Also, it’s easy to look in the past and only remember the good times when the problems you had then are no longer present in your life. It was simpler in a sense, but also harder in other ways. For certain groups of people is was objectively much worse.

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Queue_Bit t1_jeehgof wrote

Haha yeah I bet they were better for your straight white male older relative

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SlowCrates t1_jeeo0m2 wrote

And having something to show for your work. If you lived on a farm, you knew exactly what you're working for and you could see the fruits of your labor. If you had any other job, you still made enough money to afford to take care of your family. Mom's didn't need to work.

Farmers still have the same ethic. But everyone else has to have more jobs because the cost of living has grossly outpaced wages.

Unless you're in a certain tier in society, of course. But the middle class is fucked.

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Durabys t1_jeeppuc wrote

They were better from the perspective of being young because when one is young the bones don't hurt when moving, the mind races ahead and doesn't move like frozen honey, one actually can understand new concepts and not jump in fright as his mind ricochets over anything that came after one's 40th birthday or when one visits the doctor only once per year and only for 10 minutes and do not spend half a year bedridden in a hospital.

They blame the age they live currently live in, instead of blaming circumstances: aging/death and the uncaring cosmos.

Humans have an archetypal Stockholm syndrome for Death and Aging interwoven into every single piece of culture and article of faith we ever created, and anyone not a fanatical materialist does not acknowledge it.

And this trope goes way back to the dawn of the written word, with even Aristotle complaining in his final years how everything sucks balls with the current youth. Yes. Because one gets old.

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Stinky_the_Grump23 t1_jeg0pmx wrote

He misses it. But I think it's more so because there was more human connections back then. You had a big family and you knew everyone in the village. Women were happier because raising kids was done by ~10 adults. Men were working with their teenage sons in the field. I think it's the abundance of genuine human relationships that people miss from the old days. Life was difficult in other ways, it wasn't a good time to get sick or injured.

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