Submitted by Schneller-als-Licht t3_xtwd7k in singularity
Reply to comment by ThroawayBecauseIsuck in Self-Programming Artificial Intelligence Using Code-Generating: a self-programming AI implemented using a code generation model can successfully modify its own source code to improve performance and program sub-models to perform auxiliary tasks. by Schneller-als-Licht
if they keep it in a machine without hardware like wifi adaptor lan adaptor etc etc no way it will connect. It would need to build hardware. As a piece of software in a single machine and disconnected from the grid no way it could build for itself the necessary hardware.
Life... finds a way.
You didn't do anything to refute what they were saying, which was that it could make its own network adapter using the physical properties of other hardware it had access to.
Ok. I can also say that AI could morph into a dinosaur and star flying. Can you disprove that? You can say: "that's impossible". I can answer: "You didn't disprove it."
The burden of proof for such a extraordinary claim is on them. They would need to explain how a piece of software coud repurpose other hardware components to make itself a Wifi card or something capable of connecting.
> The burden of proof for such a extraordinary claim is on them
I was thinking of this comment when I responded, which already does explain how such a thing could be done.
But also I think this is sort of the point, super-human AIs could do extraordinary things. And if it is possible, then eventually it would be done.
Personally though my intuition is that AI that's is disconnected from the real world, just trained in abstract on text/video, will not be grounded enough to do these sorts of things on its own. It can generate outputs matching the training domain, sure, but you gotta let it explore like a baby with real-world interfaces for it to figure out how to re-purpose hardware etc. Basically I don't think it can really understand what it means to break out of the box while it's living completely inside the box. Parable of the cave and all that.
But at the same time if we actually did have a truly super-intelligent AI, I still wouldn't put it past it to figure out how to use physical characteristics of devices to communicate with the outside world.
I was thinking it would much easier some social engineering/tricking someone in the lab to connect it to the grid. Should not be hard. I mean just think of that Google engineer who got made to believe that the chat AI was aware. This super-smart AI could easily make somene befriend it and then be manipulated.
There is enough electrical signals floating in a server that it could modulate those to do radio transmissions from the bus? I mean, NSA could read what you typed based on detecting signal bursts from keyboards in your house from the street back in the 90s, so it’s entirely possible. Just because a radio isn’t built in purposefully doesn’t mean it isn’t already a radio with a little math. I’ve seen prototype server boards that would scramble nearby CRTs when you turned it on because a shielding was missed.
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