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Ihateseatbelts t1_iqvozo1 wrote

Forgive the curt tone, but we cannot sit on our arses with this one. Learning as much as we can in as many fields as we can, and organising to ensure that the progress is shared instead of hoarded is crucial.

Barring that, I'm gonna say... in just under two hours, lol.

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Whattaboutthecosmos t1_iqvyfgd wrote

Just curious, what makes you think just under two hours?

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Ilunamie t1_iqwaggo wrote

Probably when the collective IQ surpasses that of an rotten apple

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thisisnotsquidward t1_iqwxv7w wrote

a*. The irony.

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Ilunamie t1_iqy3x1q wrote

The irony here is that you aren''t aware of me being multilingual and I'm not using autocorrect. Learn german (like I did with english) for the past 13 years and then come again, cause that's how much time I spent to learn words you don't even know how to use without scientific explanation, you faggot.

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JavaMochaNeuroCam t1_iqzbiyo wrote

The irony, is that the joke is that the COLLECTIVE IQ is worse than a decomposing fruit ... and you demonstrated an example of that by exhibiting 1 sample in 8+ billion as your proof of statistical significance. Of course, the average (mean) IQ is 100 by definition. But, the intelligence exhibited by a mob of professors can, an usually does, drop exceptionally fast. With the selfish stupidity of humanity in sum, we have the same chances of survival as a rotting apple.
Collectively, we are fools racing to the cliffs.

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kevinmise t1_ir0drph wrote

Lmao at the defensiveness here and your use of a slur .. you’re not as smart as you think you are 😂😂😂

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Booboo77775 t1_iqwrvdj wrote

My friend's IQ is 145!

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Shelfrock77 t1_iqvso13 wrote

People will have full dive vr and some people will still have the nerve to still not be happy. Be patient, the merch is coming.

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Cult_of_Chad t1_iqx9433 wrote

Happiness is such a weird thing.

I grew up starving in a third world hellhole and knew so many people that managed to be happy under those circumstances. Similarly, I now live a middle class life in a wealthy country and so many of the privileged people I know somehow manage to remain thoroughly miserable.

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Gaothaire t1_iqxdse1 wrote

Ram Dass tells a story of being in India, by a train platform with food poisoning, for several days, and the toilet was overflowing, so every time he went to expell from both ends he had to walk through it with bare feet, and it was a very populated place, crowded, while families waiting on trains or moving about.

He said, even among all that, he found himself happy, fully immersed in the life and vitality of the area, something so many young sub/urban professionals in the West who live alone and rarely interact with a community, they're disconnected from all the Life that comes from participating in that play.

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bidragskungen1 t1_iqxkdr8 wrote

Thank you for sharing a story from the fantastic baba ram dass

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Gaothaire t1_iqxo653 wrote

Of course, he's great! I listened to a talk from someone recently that recommended Ram Dass talks as satsang, a space of shared consciousness. Good to listen to whenever, and usefully grounding for anyone going through a spiritual emergency, and by my own estimation, also during challenging psychedelic trips.

Damien Echols was another one recommended, his book High Magick being mentioned as an example of a satsang book. He reads the audiobook version, and I listened to it from that perspective while high over the weekend, and it was so good. Terence McKenna is another person who I can just listen all day to the lectures he gave, it's just such a cozy vibe.

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r0cket-b0i t1_iqw61hd wrote

When - yesterday... if not enough, then perhaps we should collectively do something about it, we have the internet, we can code, design, we can invest, I am fairly seriously interested if anything is actually missing and if regular people can help bring more things to fruition.

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LeifInVinland t1_iqvlwmq wrote

it’s gonna be gradual process, our life is generally better than 2012 is it not?

you won’t notice it day to day, but look back a few years you’ll see the difference. just don’t die lol.

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dreamking__ t1_iqwc7k8 wrote

>our life is generally better than 2012 is it not?

Definitely not. Technology has improved a lot but the economy is collapsing, quality of life is eroding, we're seeing the first death throes of our biosphere and fascists have been getting elected all over the world.

The singularity will not be the utopia the fanatics in this sub preach about if we don't improve our political systems as well.

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ShadowRazz t1_iqwf7n0 wrote

I dream of a world where we won’t even need these political systems

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dreamking__ t1_iqwfssb wrote

I do too but we need to get there by working with what we have.

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gobbo t1_iqwcpbm wrote

Reliable housing and self determination are more important than my car being a transformer.

Imagine that. The true singularity is expressed in social effects.

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z0rm t1_iqx9bez wrote

It is getting better pretty much every year. The increases are so small they're unnoticeable though.

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ihateshadylandlords t1_iqwb32o wrote

Next Thursday.

Seriously though, these developments will take time. Things move fast, but not that fast. Try to make the most of the present and not fixate on products or services that may/may not ever make it to production.

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dreamedio t1_ir7zcfu wrote

Or the change could be entirely different than your imaging ppl in 1900s imagined the future differently even 1950 imagined it differently nobody knows

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marvinthedog t1_iqwhzim wrote

It´s important to remember that we allready have considerably better lives than we had 100 years ago, not to mention 1000 years ago.

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ArgentStonecutter t1_iqxxuuq wrote

Already happened.

I'm a time traveler from the 60s, where we didn't even have have color TV and phone numbers were only 6 digits. The internet was literally science fiction (Shockwave Rider, 1974) and we still expected flying cars. They invented vaccines for measles, mumps, and whooping cough while I was a kid and it was EXCITING!

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purple_hamster66 t1_iqw13iq wrote

How many common products are produced using AI? 25%? 50%? Do you think they use machine learning to find oil reserves? To predict market demand so they know which products to make? To design safer cars? To distribute products more efficiently to resellers? To genetically engineer plants and animals?

I think we are already ahead… you just don’t know what you don’t know.

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justowen4 t1_iqwm2lz wrote

OpenAI says you should start a company that handles the middle layer between customers and their next generation api which will have deep context or tuning capabilities

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SomedayWeDie t1_iqwwn8g wrote

When every worker is in a union and there are no homeless

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Artanthos t1_iqyyz67 wrote

Define better.

Medicine is much better than it was a couple of decades ago.

Cars are safer, cleaner, and more fuel efficient.

Home computers are entire orders of magnitude more powerful than when I was young.

The IoT was just starting as a concept 10 years ago.

Technology today is advancing fast enough that rapid change is becoming normalized enough to be unrecognizable.

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SteppenAxolotl t1_iqxpkw0 wrote

You must wait until you get to heaven to be rewarded.

>Servants, obey your masters in everything. Obey all the time, even when they can’t see you. Don’t just pretend to work hard so that they will treat you well. No, you must serve your masters honestly because you respect the Lord. In all the work you are given, do the best you can. Work as though you are working for the Lord, not any earthly master.

>Remember that you will receive your reward from the Lord, who will give you what he promised his people.

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zanzenzon t1_iqy52ws wrote

It’s already better. I don’t know what you are waiting for

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SnowyNW t1_iqzsb6d wrote

What are the top resources and tools available to the general public to enrich our lives, hobbies, work and school?

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TheSingulatarian t1_iqwtrzi wrote

In the short term AI will not make most people's lives better. It may help cure some diseases and solve the global warming problem. But, expect mass unemployment and an increase in crime for the rest of the century.

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Zealousideal-Skill84 t1_iqx03eo wrote

Our lives will never get better whilst the billionaire class still controls and monetized e everything

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mli t1_iqx8qiq wrote

It won’t. Sorry to tell you that.

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dalledoeswalle t1_iqvqjzt wrote

We have like 100,000 years of human history to draw from. Why do we think that general AI and all the other singularity topics are going to improve life for all humans on this planet? It’s also really odd to say life is better than it was in 2012. That largely depends on where you live. Half the world is starving. It’s way more likely all of these new technologies will be used like all the past new technologies to reinforce the power structures that exist and to further control the masses at the bottom.

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Clean_Livlng t1_iqw9ofp wrote

>It’s also really odd to say life is better than it was in 2012. That largely depends on where you live. Half the world is starving.

https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty#historical-poverty-around-the-world

Thing were a lot worse in the past, it's a common misconception that things haven't got better. There's still a lot of work to be done in terms of ending poverty around the world, but people who aren't me have made massive improvements since 2012. I've just helping a little with protein folding research through folding@home for over a decade. I hope it's helped, but I don't know how much my small contribution has. Better than mining bitcoin anyway.

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dalledoeswalle t1_iqwl09o wrote

Malaysia just had chicken export bans because they can’t keep enough protein in the country with exports. Yemen, Lebanon, Afghanistan just to name 3 countries outside of most of Africa that have widespread food insecurity. Much of rural china deals with food insecurity. You’re absolutely right it might be more than half of the global population.

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ISnortBees t1_iqxpb04 wrote

Maybe not starving (which literally means dying because of lack of food), but suffering from some form of malnutrition. Protein malnutrition is important, as a lot of cereal crops cannot provide a person with a complete amino acid profile and micronutrients if relied on to the extent they are in poorer countries.

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dalledoeswalle t1_iqxppkr wrote

So you’re saying that widespread hunger is acceptable, but if it were famine and starvation then you’d be worried?

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ISnortBees t1_iqxrqg7 wrote

I’m just saying half the world is still not starving. It’s not even half the world not meeting their needed caloric intakes. Advances in fertilizer, pesticide and GMO technology have actually made a difference. There’s still problems that need fixing but your initial comment is inaccurate

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dalledoeswalle t1_iqxspg3 wrote

Ok. I’m glad someone is here to tell those poor Chinese farmers that good news, they aren’t starving!

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ISnortBees t1_iqxt5em wrote

One problem is worse than the other. If you still have a bad problem but get rid of a worse one, then your situation has improved. If you’re going to be condescending, you should at least be smarter than a child first

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Key_Abbreviations658 t1_iqz063y wrote

Obviously nothing has gotten better because there was problem than and now there is still problem /s

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visarga t1_iqxstx5 wrote

Just remember how you use your phone and explain that to a person from 200 years ago, I bet they'll think you are already deep into the singularity by their standards.

Having food, water, toilet, electricity and internet is nothing to brag about, even the poorest of us should have them. But just a couple of centuries ago these things would have been off the scale.

If you look back over decades or a couple of centuries life has been getting steadily better. It wasn't fake progress, but we're busier than ever.

Many people think after the singularity we'll have nothing to do anymore. On the contrary, I think we'll have more than before. We'll still compete and we'll often be unhappy like before.

Who said the purpose of AI should be to improve our lives? The purpose of life is to expand and exist despite the challenges it meets. That means competition and exploration, not peace and detachment. We didn't come out on top of nature by being nice, we exploited every advantage and knowledge along the way.

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Competitive-Finding7 t1_iqvyw3c wrote

Why the downvotes, this is spot on.

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Clean_Livlng t1_iqwanjt wrote

Because things have gotten a lot better than in 2012 in terms of world poverty.

https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty#historical-poverty-around-the-world

So, as we've done in the past, it's likely these new technologies will be used to benefit a lot of people. Especially if money can be made from charging people for access to new technology.

e.g. We can buy hand sanitizer, cellphones, internet access, computers, rocket packs, 3D printers etc.

Do you still think it's spot on? New technologies don't instantly benefit everyone in the world, but over decades they do.

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SteppenAxolotl t1_iqytf77 wrote

>e.g. We can buy hand sanitizer, cellphones, internet access, computers, rocket packs, 3D printers etc.

That largely depends on who you are and where you live.

Just add 0.01$ to 1$, 1.90$ or the 2.00$ cutoff and you're no longer in extreme poverty, but you're still grindingly poor. You can buy a cell phone for $4, but you're still grindingly poor. How much does the quality of your life change if you go from 2.00$/day to 3.00$/day. Those are certainly changes, are they meaningful changes given you're looking at a timespan covering most of a working life time. Is a cell phone and some hand sanitizer sufficient if you're born in extreme poverty and you die in regular poverty.

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Clean_Livlng t1_iqzdnmy wrote

>How much does the quality of your life change if you go from 2.00$/day to 3.00$/day.

A lot. If you're in a place where you're earning $2 a day and surviving on it, going to $3 is a massive improvement. You might even be able to put on weight instead of gradually losing it.

An extra $1 can be life itself. But you'd still be poor.

Yes, improvements in technology won't reach every single person on Earth and thee will still be those in poverty. But we're talking about things gettign statistically better. There are fewer of those people suffering now than there were, due to us making it better.

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"things have gotten a lot better than in 2012 in terms of world poverty."

This is true, right? of course it is. Just because things aren't perfect right now, doesn't mean we're not heading in the right direction. It doesn't mean we can't celebrate our progress.

There is also a lot left to do, because people do still live in poverty and things gettign better overall doesn't help them if they're still in poverty.

We have evidence of us improving lives through technology, and the proportion of those whoa re in poverty decreasing over time. Based on this, I think it's reasonable to think that further improving our technology and creating more abundance through it will allow us to bring more people out of poverty.

My point is that there are fewer people in poverty now than in 2012, and that they were incorrect in saying that half the world is starving. Half used to be starving, but we've made significant improvements since then.

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fractal_engineer t1_iqwjaep wrote

It's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better bud. And no one on this sub will be alive to see it unfortunately.

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