Looks like the age of smartphones are ending soon.

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this is what people mean when they say we will turn into drones lol

Yeah shitt, online Meetings made even shittier

doubt we'll see people with headsets going around in public anytime soon. once AR can be put into your normal glasses, then it'd REALLY take off.

a shift in culture might appear thatll make big headsets acceptable tho ,who knows 💀💀

Yeah, I dont think this headset will be practical to wear all the time. Several hours maybe, after that it's pain in the ass.

AR helmets will hit first

Looks good, as long as I can be a cat.

After this, the next step is a brain chip or something none intrusive.

Gone gargoyle. (Snowcrash)

culture will likely shift even further. Back when cell phones became available, people said "No way do people want to carry that thing with them everywhere! The office will follow me wherever I go!"

Look how that's turned out.

> Back when cell phones became available, people said "No way do people want to carry that thing with them everywhere!

but that was maybe because first were briefcase size phones?

true, but even with smaller cell phones, people still had the "Office following me everywhere" worry

I dunno theres still the big question of walking into bathrooms with these things and how to actually enforce it. With a phone its obvious when you're using it for recording video. Even audio is a bit more obvious because if you just had the thing in your pocket, audio will be muffled.

So people are not going to feel comfortable seeing all these folks with glasses on not knowing who is seeing what and why.

But you're right, people here need to realize nobody is going to walk around wearing huge headsets.

Now, something like driving with this on could potentially be really nice because you could maybe figure out a way to virtually remove some of your blindspots, like the two support beams at the edge of your windshield... maybe.

But even without that it could be useful, my GPS and speedometer being there would really remove the need for me to move my eyes completely away from the road. It allows me to get the information I need while still maintaining good peripheral vision.

But at the same time self driving cars are becoming a thing...

Cycling with this could be cool too, for the same reasons.

Beyond that, I see these taking off in workplaces and niches first

Turns out not everyone works office jobs. AI will definitely hit in that department too

I wonder when the first lawsuit over topless mods in the workplace will hit?

Pressing buttons looks like it'll be super annoying

It opens up another realm of stalking. It’ll be doing facial recognition and automatically tagging people with their Facebook, Twitter, Tinder, OF, etc.

Seems unlikely. Smartphones go in your pocket or bag. No one wants to walk around with a headset, or put one on to answer a call.

Right now on zoom hardly anyone turns on their camera. Does Zuck really expect people to put on a headset for an hour long meeting with a bunch of corporate drones? The guy is fantasizing and this product will be a flop.

online meetings will fundamentally take place in fdvr. You’ll go to “sleep” and spawn online where you can teleport to different rooms and talk to people whether it’s AI or humans that are also “dreaming” in cyberspace.

Use the NSFW broadcaster extension to publicly broadcast your sexual desires to those who seek them.

Oh god

I'm excited for AR displays, but I think having the phone will still be helpful for some time. Offloading processing and communication to the cloud to another device will allow AR displays to be as light and unobtrusive as possible.

What I'm really waiting for is for my phone to completely replace all of my other computing devices. Convergence/Continuum/DEX haven't yet delivered on this promise. Good AR displays may finally solve some of the problems in this area.

Nah the headset is massive and uncomfortable.

The new age walkman device

looks like absolute trash

gimmicky as fuck

typing with zero feedback? XD

i can't wait for it. the internet and the real world will finally merge into one, and it'll be outstandingly beautiful. customizing the real world to how you like, being in constant contact with people no matter where you are, being able to sit at a table and see someone from the other side of the world sitting across from you... so many possibilities, it's quite exciting

Google Glass 2.0

I think that there is a legitimate problem to that, and I really have no idea how to solve it that doesn't just have a degree of trust that people won't circumvent it for their device.

I could also see that turning out to not be as big of an issue as people might expect.

if we can get to having real time processed pass through with little enough lag and reliable enough, basically simulating blind-spot correction that we naturally have, and applying it to things like support beams in a car, seems like it should be doable and useful.

though keeping it safe when such mechanisms FAIL is where it could be really tricky.

To be fair, I do really hate how the office follows me wherever I go.

>though keeping it safe when such mechanisms FAIL is where it could be really tricky.

100% - oh yeah. I almost wonder if - especially if you're using it for driving that it could have a manual eject that flips the lenses out so it's impossible for it to obstruct your eyes. Imagine that shit just filled the entire thing with some crash screen or popup, my god. You want to be able to quickly and physically press a button or something. Although if they're simple glasses you could just smack em off and grab the wheel.

Yeah sounds like a nice children fantasy to me! It's so uncomfortable to wear all the gadgets that you need all day long.... it's all fun and games but real interactions won't be replaced adequately imo but let's see

AR is proven to reduce transmission in covid-19 because people aren’t touching their phones which are contaminated.

Honestly, I think the main problem with that is the meeting/participants itself instead of the technology enabling it.

The main idea behind this sort of tech is that this will make it possible for online meetings to be practically the same as meeting face to face, which saves time, money and resources and thus is very valuable.

But that’s my point. The issue is the meeting participants, not the technology. No one wants this. It’s just Zuck’s fantasy.

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Ben 10 Omniverse

omegacringe

Mark’s trying so hard to relevant, if he’s not careful he’s going to miss the wood for the trees.

Not for another decade. AR is neat but it won't beat the convenience of a smartphone

TBF at the time those phones were giant bricks.

I had a boss imply you should always be available on skype

Such an interesting novel. Very much reminded me of the Outer Limits episode on AI.

Edit: found it. S3e8 "Stream of Consciousness" of Outer Limits

Call me crazy but I still prefer physical monitors and screens and keyboards

The only people who have done this are crazy youtubers who sleep/spend 24 hours or up to a week in minecraft vr/ocarina of time as an experiment and they say it is cool but ultimately left them worse than before

Unless the HMD is drastically changed I don't see this becoming a normal reality for anyone

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What if you wanta bigger screen without having to get a bigger one. Smartphones are not the final frontier.

You can say that with pretty much anything if used for too long.

Some one is going to have to deal with bad, or bulky tech wear.

Except for the fact that this is very valuable for anyone who will not have to travel (as much) anymore (which is basically everyone).

I wonder what apple has to offer ?

What problem is this solving that is not solved by zoom?

Laggy POS

I don't think VR will replace phones... AR definitely. And most people won't buy this crap that weighs a ton and makes you look like a fucking nerd.

People going to be walking around with the no-clothes AR mod. Shits going to be wild once it hits open market

I saw a dude wearing a vr headset down the street the other day, it was pretty hilarious though (Barcelona, Spain)

J.A.R.V.I.S is still better

Because a phone is now a small pc. You have movies music and games everywhere you go .

I have a VR Headset and it's not that bad.

Many years ago I read about the concept of engineered monkeys with boosted intelligence. They would sit behind a computer screen and work all day. This was supposed to be ethical because they would be engineered to like the work.

Now my office has taken over my home and my privacy is violated all of the time, I often think of these monkeys.

mixed reality will only be cool if the headset isn’t uncomfortable

The human need for more realistic interaction

Ah yes. The realistic interaction provided by strapping a device on your face to watch people make bored movements in an unnecessary meeting.

Who are you convincing here?

Hurl

Sam Altman:

> in a few years, the important distinction won't be bot vs. human, but NPC (human or AI) vs. not

'Live versus Dead Players' by Samo Burja

Are you someone who travels for meetings?

Looks like dogshit

if you could make a device that could present a fake reality that could be be indistinguishable from reality

wouldnt people and corporations be interested in it? what if you want to have a face to face conversation with your wife about something important but you are in a military base or you missed your flight? what if your therapist broke his leg and can still give the reassurance of face to face meetings from her own home? what if two businessmen could meet with this device and discuss whatever business plans they have in the setting of a virtual restaurant since one lives in china and the other in saudi arabia?

or instead of travelling on a 12 hour flight you just pop on your headset and when you're done you can go back to your family?

certainly not like next tuesday but

2040? i have no doubt

you can still connect a keyboard

It looks like it was meant to convey they were using the physical keyboard on their laptop. Except it changed the colour of it so dunno. That looked like a real keyboard and not a vr one.

IF a metaverse or AR ever takes of it sure as hell is not going to be with whatever the fuck meta is currently doing. This looks like shit.

HoloLens is still better

LoL what? Pls send me the link! This sounds so ridiculous to me I need to read that source to be able to believe it! How does my phone gets contaminated in the first place? To decontamination it all I have to do is wipe it with a wet cloth and just wash your hands regularly! And I'll still touch my phone anyways to do phone stiff with it ;P

I keep thinking of the same concept, except with GAI instead of monkeys.

But I also know that if I wasn't continually assigned busywork I might look for things to improve at my company, so maybe it's fine...

Look into Mojo lenses, its fairly basic but promising

Nice..That's more like it.

Nice. I hope they will be releasing twice as fast Quests every 18 months, 24 months max. I also hope they will put eye and face tracking soon in every Quest unit. I hope they put Wi-Fi 7 for wireless connection with PCs. I hope they will keep reducing weight and increasing field of view, because current weight is too high and field of view is too narrow. If they will keep doing that, I may buy Quest 4 or so (assuming price stays the same).

Yeah, there would need to be a large shift in our culture for people to wear headsets outdoors. Unless they are like normal glasses today. I would certainly prefer to wear slick, lightweight glasses than something like Quest 2. But glasses would need outside processing, because you wouldn't put a 10-watt SoC inside glasses. I think that Apple may have an answer to the problem, we'll see. For sure M2 would not be enough.

In the past, people wore walkmans and discmans and even boomboxes, so it's not that farfetched to imagine people walking with glasses connected with a wire to a pocket computer, like a smartphone + wired headphones today.

I did that once 😛

It's true that currently Zoom meeting are usually without cameras being on, only microphones and only when you actually talk.

Such VR meetings would be certainly more interesting than looking at a 2D screen with Zoom calls. But I wouldn't want to sit for hours with Quest 2 on my head. They must make them more comfortable for using them for longer periods of time.

It will be cheaper than three large high-end monitors. But for now I will keep using monitors.