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Sashinii t1_irrykbf wrote

I think most jobs (including office jobs) will be automated in the 2020's and all jobs will be automated in the 2030's. Universal basic income has to be implemented to support people until nanofactories are created (at which point, people will be able to completely support themselves).

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Sotamiro t1_irsetz1 wrote

Could you elaborate on the link between nanofactories and people's independence?

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Sashinii t1_irsgiyi wrote

The nanofactory will be capable of rearranging atoms in any way permitted by the laws of physics, and all that's required to run the machine will be air, dirt, and water, so the moment the nanofactory is created, post-scarcity emerges.

You might think that such powerful technology will only be available to the rich, but every nanofactory will be able to created another nanofactory, ad infinitum, meaning that there will be no way for corporations to stop everyone from having their own nanofactory.

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GondolaSnaps t1_irslqbd wrote

Isn’t it world ending if everyone has a printer that can instantly create horrific weapons? Or is that balanced out by everyone having one?

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Cult_of_Chad t1_irx75s2 wrote

Yes. You'll have to sacrifice your privacy or live on the frontier away from the core of civilization if you want personal use of this tech.

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broadenandbuild t1_iru1fc3 wrote

What makes you think nanofactories like the ones you speak of are even possible? You’re essentially talking alchemy. Is there any indication of this happening now?

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purple_hamster66 t1_irt6jm0 wrote

Isn’t this what pharmaceutical companies do, rearrange atoms? And bakeries? And chip manufacturers? Isn’t this already happening, but in safe and tested ways that are highly reproducible?

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Sashinii t1_irt7pd2 wrote

There's no molecular manufacturing happening now.

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earthsworld t1_irsmbo0 wrote

lol, do you seriously believe that a multi-trillion dollar tech won't be patented? And you do realize that self-replicating nanobots could wipe out the planet in a matter of minutes? So your brilliant idea is that everyone should have one?

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phriot t1_irsq3li wrote

Patents typically have expiration dates. Even then, parents only stop you from commercializing something, not making it. If such a nanofactory were to exist, DRM would go further in preventing people from making their own than a patent would. Like, it could in theory make anything, but it's locked down to not make weapons or copies of itself.

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earthsworld t1_irsri29 wrote

and with ML/AI able to crack just about anything, how long do you imagine it would stay "locked down" for?

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phriot t1_irss5v2 wrote

I figure that by the time any of this is real, we'd have quantum-resistant cryptography.

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purple_hamster66 t1_irt6bjv wrote

Another input is energy… lots and lots and lots of energy is needed to manipulate atoms.

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Sashinii t1_irt7uas wrote

Yeah, so it's good that we'll have unlimited energy soon.

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Upbeat_Nebula_8795 t1_irtvpnk wrote

well the only and very serious problems before getting to the stage you are describing is this.

The quality of earths natural environment (climate change, resource production, over population, raising temperature etc)

and also foreign relations such as US and Russia, Ukraine Russia etc. (nuclear warefare) if these all go well then i completely agree with what you are saying but we have to see if it will come to fruition

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