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sumane12 t1_is7pa4n wrote

We live in a causality based universe, which means everything about us, our bodies and minds is mechanistic in origin. We are simply really intelligent biomechanical robots. If you can make a robot with human intelligence and human emotions, of course you can be friends with it.

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TheHamsterSandwich OP t1_is7pdyb wrote

But would you?

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sumane12 t1_is7qx77 wrote

It depends, i might not have anything in common with it, in which case there's no incentive to be friends.

On the flip side, it might be an AI specifically built to be interested in everything I'm interested in, to be just human enough to be interesting to me, and have goals that I can offer reasonable assistance in so as not to feel like I'm wasting it's time as true friendship is about reciprocation. That would be an AI I can really be emotionally invested with.

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DamianFullyReversed t1_isagmtz wrote

Yeah, I’d love a robot companion interested in my interests! I’d prefer one more extroverted than me to keep my spirits up too.

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freeman_joe t1_is9nvhd wrote

Yes. Why not? Robot will probably be better friend than most humans.

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Powerful_Range_4270 t1_is8sicu wrote

I thought we lived in a probabilistic universe. Still even then odds are stacked against you hard. Going against progress as a whole will do more harm than good.

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sumane12 t1_is9i8s8 wrote

Ooh good point, I think there's a huge discussion to be had on probabilistic Vs causal based universe, however it does seem like at the sub atomic scale atleast, the universe exists as a probability. But at this macro scale, probability matters less than causality

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EnIdiot t1_isa8gbm wrote

You need to read up on quantum choice erasure. We may not live in a world of cause and effect that proceeds linearly forward in time.

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sumane12 t1_isaftu6 wrote

Yes I've read up on it. I mentioned further down quantum world might be probability based but our macro world, atleast from our perspective, seems like it's based on causality. Could be wrong I suppose, but it seems reasonable for this analogy

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EnIdiot t1_isagppb wrote

The other person I’ve been hearing about is Robert Hoffman. Dude is seriously interesting in that his studies are showing that humans (and all animals) evolved not to see reality as it is, but in a manner that helps them to survive. He likens out “perception” to a user interface on reality. It isn’t reality or objective, it is just useful.

Time seen as passing from past to future and with a line of causality may just be an evolutionary trick to help us survive.

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sumane12 t1_isamy0m wrote

Yes very interesting, it makes complete sense, if time is just another dimension like width, height and depth, causality might just be our way of making sense of it from an evolutionary perspective.

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EnIdiot t1_isanbpz wrote

I’m really interested in AI in part because I think we need an “other” to help see the world in ways our biology can allow for. The unfortunate thing is, however, that these systems are created by us and modeled upon us so it may be that they are incapable of escaping the same “prison” we are in.

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