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blueSGL t1_isptr8s wrote

> Not because Im denying progress, but because if Im not safe from automation, nobody is.

this is my thoughts. With the speed that things are improving it's not going to hit one sector, it going to hit most/all of the sectors at around the same time with increasing regularity.

That sort of seismic shift, for that many people has to mean UBI or another similar scheme in order to stabilize the economy.

There is no reason having automated goods and services if a huge chunk of your consumer base is now unable to buy them.

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TheSingulatarian t1_isswca3 wrote

It will take 10 to 20 years for capitalists to come to this realization. Right now they seem to think a rental model will compensate for reduced prosperity of the masses, "You will own nothing, and you will be happy." But, I not so sure that is going to work out.

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blueSGL t1_ist0kec wrote

with google now gamifying (and having an AI 'win') low level optimization and Microsoft improving natural language coding to include sanity checking and self correcting even if you assume cherrypicked results I don't think it's going to be 10-20 years.

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ginger_gcups t1_it0ew70 wrote

Especially how the entire model will eventually be upheaved by fabricating replicators as a community or personal service, and once one of them get out, well, given a supply of matter and energy, everyone gets one and is their own steady state producer. Genie would be out of the bottle then, and God knows what beyond that.

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visarga t1_it15bg3 wrote

> A supply of matter and energy

I think some raw materials are going to be inevitably contested unless we find abundant replacements or reach 100% recycling rate. A replicator won't save us if it needs rare material X.

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FiFoFree t1_it2w094 wrote

In theory all you need for an abundance of any element is other elements as stock, a particle accelerator, energy, and time.

In practice, we'd need the price and size of particle accelerators to go way down, the price of energy to go way down, and the time required to go way down before it would make a difference.

Then again... "Anything that is theoretically possible will be achieved in practice, no matter what the technical difficulties are, if it is desired greatly enough." -- Arthur C. Clarke.

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